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 Posted 11/20/2018  4:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
It is from Hutt River in Australia but has US markings so is it Australian or US



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 Posted 11/20/2018  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hutt River is a province in Australia that claims to be a sovereign micro-nation, but Australia disagrees.
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 Posted 11/20/2018  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numista classifies Hutt River Province as a micronation, along with Sealand, Seborga, and Lundy.

I suppose these would belong in world coins here at CCF.
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 Posted 11/20/2018  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some collect "Fantasy Coins"- Hutt River Province is a location that fits as well as a larger number of Fantasy Coins.
In fact, there is a Fantasy Coin checklist, but there is so much of it nowadays, the checklist I used must be way out of date by now.
It's not Australian or US at all.
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 Posted 11/20/2018  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Different cataloging authorities seem to differ on fantasy/real coin status. Examples:


Numista          Krause
-----------      ------------------
Micronation      Unusual              Hutt River Province
Micronation      Unusual              Seborga Principality              
Micronation      Unusual              Sealand Principality 
Micronation      Unusual              Lundy
Country          Unusual              Sovereign Order of Malta
Fantasy          Sovereign Nation     Creek Nation
Fantasy          Sovereign Nation     Shawnee Tribal Nation
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 Posted 11/20/2018  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Krause itself also moves coins first listed in the SCWC to the UWC catalogs.
Call them Micro, Unrecognized, Unusual, Fantasy- Joel Anderson has a nice catalog with many of them.
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 Posted 11/20/2018  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well that's a lot of info I didn't know about,

But I'm still not sure where to file this coin in my own records.
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 Posted 11/20/2018  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my collection, coins are physically filed by date, so it would go with the other 1991 coins. In the folder with coin pics, the filename would start with 1991_AU_Hutt_River_Province_-----.

For example, the conventionally-illuminated obverse shot of my Hutt River coin is named:

1978_AU_Hutt_River_Province_20cents_1o_DPP_2018_02_22__0021_1.jpg
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 Posted 11/20/2018  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks pepactonius will work on it.
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 Posted 11/20/2018  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a fantasy coin, so to that end, why not collect more?
They can be fun and interesting and you can fill a small binder with a lot of neat locations.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike, nice pick up.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great add mcshilling. I love the Desert Storm side of the coin.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So if it's a $5 fantasy coin can it be used in Australia or any where for $5 ?
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 Posted 11/21/2018  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
doubtful if it's accepted as legitimate money, but I really do not know
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