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 Posted 12/22/2018  07:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Baby_Lokz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Could this really be a true genuine Doubled Die? Would love to get a second or perhaps even a third opinion pretty please? Would appreciate all and any feedbacks given in return. Thank you all in advance!






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 Posted 12/22/2018  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need better close up pics. Where are you seeing a DDO or DDR?
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 Posted 12/22/2018  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im not seeing it
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 Posted 12/22/2018  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is your lighting set up? Looks like you may have more than one light direction.
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 Posted 12/22/2018  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree. Looks pretty normal to me. Maybe a bit of Machine Doubling?
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 Posted 12/22/2018  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But have seen the big doubled die? It looks nothing like that:

Yours is a regular coin.
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 Posted 12/22/2018  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like your coin has some Machine Doubling...not a doubled die.
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I don't see anything. You have a normal Lincoln Wheat cent. Since it's a Wheat cent, save it and put it with the others.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 12/22/2018  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RLS0812 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Ghosting" most likely. Caused by lighting.
Does the doubled elements disappear if you view it from a different angle ?
Example of a ghost:
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 Posted 12/22/2018  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Need better close up pics. Where are you seeing a DDO or DDR?
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I think John saw it first. Could you post pics of (1) the lower right wheat stalk and stem and (2) the tip of the left wheat stalk and "E" and the "P" of PLURIBUS and the dot between them?
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 Posted 12/23/2018  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the light source is too low, it will make the edges of the devices to glare. That is what I'm seeing on your coin. Look at the tops of the coins devices for doubling, not the edges of the devices. If it is a doubled die, then there should be seen a spread of the devices, an enlargement. Looking at the edges of the devices are where you will find Machine Doubling.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 12/23/2018  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baby_Lokz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
fortcollins : Here are a few photos which you had requested to see



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 Posted 12/23/2018  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where you see glare on the obverse motto area, is showing Machine Doubling.
http://goccf.com/t/335702
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 12/23/2018  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baby_Lokz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so very much for the information and especially for providing me with the very detailed link on how to take photos n such! Thanks again Coop, and to everyone else who gave a response! Much appreciated...
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