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Did I Translate "Vuurijzers" Correctly?

 
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 Posted 01/26/2019  8:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jgenn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I believe we have a few Dutch speakers as regulars on this forum. I recently acquired a Philipsdaalder from 1558 that shows some interesting devices on the reverse. Jean Elsen catalog listings consistently call these "vuurijzers" which, according to both Google and Bing, translates to fire irons (aka andirons, fire-dogs). These were fireplace hardware that came in pairs to support logs and could sport decorative guards, so decorative that, apparently, they might be featured as devices on coins.

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 Posted 01/26/2019  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin (Flanders?), except for those four defects around the rim

Indeed, our Belgian colleagues might be of some help, so I hope they see this shortly (and I think the answer is more or less yes, since these things are "briquets" in French).
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Thanks for the comment, tdziemia. Yes, Flanders, Bruges mint.

I got the translation of "vuurijzers" wrong -- a fire iron is what you strike with flint to start the fire. That makes more sense for the shower of sparks depicted on the coin above.
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I found this relevant bit on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briquet_(coin)
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Great link, Kushanshah!

I found a photo of medieval fire irons in an old auction lot -- you'll need to scroll down to where the photos are. The one on the bottom looks vaguely like the devices on the coin.

And another showing some diversity in shapes.
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