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A Talk About Coin Youtubers, Clickbait, And Misdirection.

 
 
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 Posted 03/20/2019  9:50 pm Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This has been something that ticks me off in the numimismatic community. Either they knowingly clickbait their videos, or lie to their viewers for capital gains, ie market manipulation. Or they simply have no idea what they are talking about and refuse to believe they could possibly be wrong. Does that bother anyone else? I would have no problem linking examples, not has a hate thing but as a example of whom not to trust.
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 Posted 03/20/2019  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganhuls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really just try to ignore it until it really seems to catch my eye; that is, if the videos or posts are THAT much of a clickbait. That's when I get a little flustered. And plus usually the clickbaiters have no idea what they're talking about, or they exaggerate it, take it the wrong way, etc.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  06:37 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's my point! I do to, it's when they have a huge audience and no idea what they are talking about that annoys me the most
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
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 Posted 03/21/2019  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess that is what is nice about being old. Things like that just don't get to me at all. In fact I'm not even sure what is on that site about coins. Better yet this is about the only coin site I use at all. As I get older it is more and more difficult to even find other web sites about anything. So my reply to you is to do as I do and just use this site for coins.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cdncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are so many levels of knowledge on YouTube that I tend to avoid it. If I have a question I will come on this forum instead.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  09:58 am  Show Profile   Check chafemasterj's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I must confess that the thought of going to YouTube for coin knowledge has NEVER crossed my mind.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Clickbait, lies and manipulation" describes far too much content on far too many sites, numismatic or otherwise.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As Abraham Lincoln once said, you can't believe everything you see on Youtube.

More seriously, the problem of determining what is true is not something new. It is as hard as ever to prove something true. What is new is that it is easy to get a wide audience.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thisistheshow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any subject you are interested in or passionate about, if you explore it on YouTube, will most likely have these videos.

It's possible that newcomers to sites like this end up here because they are tricked by such videos, which is why we should always try to steer new potential collectors in the right direction.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Does that bother anyone else?


It's really something that's not worth worrying about nor is it something unique to YouTube. You can find the same thing happening in print media, forums, articles, books, TV, podcasts, speeches ect. You can find examples of it ranging from the brand new to authors to respected experts. Some are worse about it than others.

It isn't something that is unique to numismatics either. YouTube is just like anything else, there will be good content and bad content, like any other source it will basically be as useful as someone makes it. It can be a good resource and we don't need to throw the baby out with the bath water. While ignoring the bullion guys saying to invest your 401k into it and the click bait type stuff is a good idea PCGS has a series of grading videos on there that can be especially helpful to new people.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
About 1/3 of the minutes of our TV local news broadcast is "stay tuned" bait.
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 Posted 03/21/2019  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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About 1/3 of the minutes of our TV local news broadcast is "stay tuned" bait.
This. Which is why I quit watching the local news on TV. I just use the Google News app, which allows me to get local news on my terms.
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 Posted 03/22/2019  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What really got me burned out (especially on the error/variety forum) is the amount of people who read or watch this kind of content and believe that everything they have is worth MEGA BUCKS! Even worse when they get offended and snappy when they hear anything less than what they were expecting.

The amount of people on YouTube rambling half-correct information about ultra-rarities in pocket change certainly don't help.

I forget where, but a couple months ago someone legitimately believed that they had a coin that was worth a billion dollars.
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 Posted 03/22/2019  09:35 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's just silly now. No those people really don't help at all
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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