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 Posted 03/23/2019  5:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Leonardo Toni to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, my name is Leonardo, from Brazil.

I collected coins since childhood.

Recently, I inherited some old coins.

I looked for the forum because I did not find clues about these coins in the regional numismatics...

I need help identifying...

If any participant has any idea about their origins, I would greatly appreciate it!

Greetings!









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to CCF. Give it a bit and some members will be along to help you.
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 Posted 03/23/2019  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The first appears to be a medieval European coin, probably 1500s or earlier based on the gothic legend. There is enough lettering that someone will figure it out.
The first photo might have v c e n c (from 11:00 to 4:00)
The second photo might have n e ? o (from 6:00 to 10:00)
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 Posted 03/24/2019  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@LT, first welcome to CCF. Second, those are some interesting coins that you have there, despite the heavy wear. Several of your pics are out of focus enough that I'm having trouble deciphering what you have there.

The first image of the first coin in particular is frustrating to me because I can't quite make out enough detail to help you. It would be super-cool if you could post an in-focus pic of that.

Also, both pictures of the second coin are quite dark. I'm pretty sure that the inscriptions are in arabic, but better light would help confirm that, and whether that is a lamb or some other animal on the back.

Both of your pics of the third coin are out of focus. I see a shield on one side and perhaps a rose on the other, but it is too hard to know without better clarity. There are a couple pennies from 16th century England that have a rose on one side and a shield on the other, but you coin would then be missing a substantial amount of the outer rim. Clearer pics would help to determine if the shield is correct or not.

Your last coin has a long cross with three pellets in each quarter, which makes me think of medieval England, but normally there is an outer circle of text rather than more pellets. I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Your last photo is in-focus and well-lit: this should be what you are striving for with all of your other pictures.

Sorry that I can't be more helpful, but hopefully you can take and post slightly better pictures. Thx!
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 Posted 03/24/2019  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Your last coin has a long cross with three pellets in each quarter...normally there is an outer circle of text rather than more pellets


I can't make out the obverse on the OP coin (#4), and I know these are not a match, but maybe a jeton of this general ilk?

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 Posted 03/24/2019  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great idea Bob--I hadn't considered that the fourth coin might be a jeton.
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 Posted 03/24/2019  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Leonardo Toni to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Greetings!

Bob L, the fourth must really be the jeton, I am very grateful!

tdziemia, Thank you for thank you for deciphering the legends of the first coin!

Spence, Thank you for the tips! I'm posting better pics of the coins:





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The one with the elephant is from the Indian state of Mysore.
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Nice job @sap recognizing the Sri above that stick-legged elephant! @LT, here is a link to what looks to be your coin--or at least something very close: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces64799.html
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 Posted 03/25/2019  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@LT, after a couple hours of searching tonight, I'm ready to give up on identifying your first coin. It has a shield on one side that is consistent with both Munster and Austria in that the left side (at least) has three stripes. The point bottom is a little problematic though and is preventing me from being positive about this. Also, I'd say 1200s or 1300s based on the letter shapes.

Added: for comparison, see these images of my Denar from Munster that dates to between 1379 and 1381 AD. It seems somewhat close, but is not an exact match to be sure.



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 Posted 03/25/2019  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have this Italian quattrino from the city-state of Ferrara, mid-1400s that is also close, but probably not right. The shield is similar, and the other side also has the image of a saint in a beaded circle. Even if not direct matches, I think these last two examples confirm the style is European circa 1350-1450:


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 Posted 03/30/2019  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Leonardo Toni to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Greetings!
Thank you very much for the support of all to unravel these puzzles!
I will continue the research and also feel more motivated to help the other members of the group and foster numismatic knowledge...
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