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 Posted 04/14/2019  4:36 pm Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Coin-1-penn...AOSwOmBcstkV
Will not be there long. This very fake was discussed at length yesterday at the ONA. I will post images here if anyone is interested. This one baffled most. Made front page of CCN. Cand promised education......not so much was done. MM
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 Posted 04/14/2019  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's the way to whack them, Mikey!
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 Posted 04/14/2019  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Listing has been removed already.
I, among others I'm sure, would be interested in pictures.
I would like to have it in my file for future reference.
Good job MIke.
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 Posted 04/14/2019  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pics would be greatly appreciated.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 04/14/2019  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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 Posted 04/14/2019  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
based on the "sandy" textures of the rims alone compared to the rest pof the details, should make anyone question authenticity.

they are getting better for sure, but not fooling anyone just yet.

thanks for your efforts MM
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 Posted 04/14/2019  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the pics.
I see one very obvious marker which distinguishes this from the real deal.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 04/15/2019  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dave and Jim you are both more than welcome. I am at a disadvantage Dave as to the obvious marker as I do not collect these?
Wade, the finish is very good in hand. I washed off the antiquing agent after I took these images and the finish is much better.
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 Posted 04/15/2019  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for posting this. This would be so frustrating to buy and find out its fake. Would make non experienced collectors possibly give up.
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 Posted 04/15/2019  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are welcome Alan. The inexperienced is why I do this.Cand promised education on this one in CCN. Nodda.....
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 Posted 04/19/2019  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter4805 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I'm not a token collector I'm afraid this one would have fooled me completely.
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 Posted 04/20/2019  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yarm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"they are getting better for sure, but not fooling anyone just yet."

Is it clear that such pieces are modern rather than contemporary fakes?
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 Posted 04/21/2019  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Is it clear that such pieces are modern rather than contemporary fakes?


clear? no. obviously questionable? yes.

aside from the markers already pointed out, the condition of the rims vs condition of the fields makes the flags go up.

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 Posted 04/21/2019  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I purchased it from the manufacturer. Yes it is clearly modern.
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 Posted 04/22/2019  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's what a genuine piece looks like.

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