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Grading Opinions On 1862 Nb 20 Cents...

 
 
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 Posted 05/22/2019  7:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I don't have it in hand but was wondering how this would come back if graded. It might look worse in photos than it will in hand, especially at an angle.

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 Posted 05/22/2019  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF detailed damaged.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@USSID18 - Thanks. If it weren't for the scratches, what would you grade it at, just curious.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still at the Extra Fine range. It's still a good looking coin. Hairline, Ear, Crown, Oak Leaves.. !
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 Posted 05/22/2019  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Geeze...I've seen NGC grade very similar AU, I would have thought higher. Nice coin though, I agree. It's quite rare, only 150,000 or so minted.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Choice VF Details
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 Posted 05/22/2019  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Geeze...I've seen NGC grade very similar AU,


That very well could be. I'm not an expert.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Talonbat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This wouldn't have a chance at a straight grade, it would be scratches. I would imagine ICCS would grade this VF-30(scratched or scratches or graffiti even since it looks on purpose). Alot of the detail you need to see is blurred due to the ebay tilt so grading accurately is difficult with these pictures. NGC could easily put it at AU details but it would be very wrong. Unfortunately a problem coin is a problem coin.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree it's hard to tell with the tilted photo, but there appears to be enough wear to keep it from AU.

Looks like someone used it as a cutting board.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@USSID18 My comment about NGC was not directed at your prior comment, it was more of a flustered sigh...lol
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 Posted 05/22/2019  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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@USSID18 My comment about NGC was not directed at your prior comment, it was more of a flustered sigh...lol


No problem. We're all here to learn and bounce ideas and opinions off each other.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Talonbat I agree it's a problem coin. I'm also thinking the dirt in the scratches combined with the angle shot make it look worse than it really is. I figured it would come back details but considering it's hard to come buy in a decent grade and a decent price, I can ignore the scratches until I find something nicer or get tired of looking at it, then I'll just unload it. But there seems to be a consensus at VF-EF details. I guess I can live with that for now. Thanks guys.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@USSID18 I love this forum for that. Most of what I know about coins is from you guys. I've learned more in the last few years here than in all my life collecting. Have to say, I didn't have many friends who took interest in the hobby.
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 Posted 05/22/2019  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Most of what I know about coins is from you guys. I've learned more in the last few years here than in all my life collecting.


Same here.


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Have to say, I didn't have many friends who took interest in the hobby.


I'll go out on a limb here and say, 97% of us are in the same boat. That makes you an official member. Join the crowd!
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 Posted 05/22/2019  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Me too! I turned one friend of mine to the dark side so far. Hopefully more to come.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 05/22/2019  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would be a good thread to start. "How Many of You Have Friends That Collect Coins?"
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