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1851 Three Cent Silver - Grade Opinions Sought

 
 
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 Posted 06/16/2019  10:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is one of the few coins I have personally submitted to PCGS years ago. Just wondering what your thoughts on the grade are. There are many die polish lines but it came back as tooled and I still cannot figure out where the tooling is.

These are new images with my new imaging system for those of you who may remember when I first posted it years ago. I can provide closeups of any areas that you would like to see.,

Let me know what YOU grade it at (and if you see any tooling). Thanks!




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 Posted 06/16/2019  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hate going first! MS something! Very nice!! !
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 Posted 06/16/2019  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no clue. Mushy strike but nice coin. Maybe the die gouges in the shield?
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 Posted 06/16/2019  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would grade it MS62-MS63 but the shield lines look re-engraved or otherwise altered. Maybe it's just me. It might be worth a crackout and "blind" resubmit.
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 Posted 06/17/2019  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
on both the obverse and reverse I am seeing parallel lines, both horizontal and vertical on both the fields and the devices. if they were die polishing marks they should be on the fields and not the devices. they are faint, but there. looks like a rotary tool with a fine gauge may have been used on the surface of the coin. surface does not look mint original to me.
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 Posted 06/17/2019  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS62. the scratches between the vertical lines of the shield should not be there. quite possibly the cause of the tooled designation. I don't see anything else wrong
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 Posted 06/17/2019  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die polishing? I'll say 63, very attractive.
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 Posted 06/17/2019  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This was a very heavily polished die.

Thank you paralyse! I rechecked the shield in hand, and while the vertical lines are correct, I did notice a slight disturbance in the upper right corner of the shield that is most likely tooling. I would not have caught that without everyones help refocusing in.

I had personally graded it MS61/62 Obverse, MS 63 Reverse: Net 62.
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 Posted 06/17/2019  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sasquatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Has a few blurry marks on the holder for a new submission. That might be hiding something.
It would be nice if the TPGs gave better explanations on their details grades.
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