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1943 D Lincoln Steel Cent, Please Grade/Authentication

 
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 Posted 06/22/2019  11:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add brookeAD5683 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Wow! My husband purchased today, a small bunch of of these 1943 steel war coins from a very old-fashioned, old man. He said he was treated to a pleasant and education history of the old man's coins while sitting outside on a park bench.
They aren't all the same mints and there are 10 in total, but I'm going to show them one at a time so that none of us get confused about which is which.
The rest of the day, until now, I've been admiring them and of course doing research here and there when I can. But I want to know for sure if they are genuine or forgeries. And if they are genuine, what would they likely be graded?
Also, curious about the possible value of those which are real, if you happen to know that information. Lol.

Thanks guys!




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 Posted 06/22/2019  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ask yourself this question: what is the purpose of counterfeiting these cents? They are still plentiful after all these years. They can be bought easily and inexpensively. One positive note: nice original surfaces are a joy to see and you would be well served to study the ten - steel does not hold up well over the years. Decide which look the best. This will train your eyes to appreciate a coin's surfaces. So nice to hear about your husband's and your enthusiasm.
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 Posted 06/22/2019  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brookeAD5683 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, [matthewvincent.

We are definitely going to be studying all ten of them.
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 Posted 06/23/2019  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never heard of a counterfeit 1943 steel cent so I'd suspect your coins are all genuine. There were jillions of them made and they are not "rare" by any means. I cannot tell from your photo whether your coin is "unc" or reprocessed so I cannot offer a grade.

The biggest thing y'all need to learn is to how to be able to recognize the difference in true uncirculated steel cents and the millions of reprocessed steel cents that are passed off as "uncs". An unprocessed steel cent will have a frosty silver like appearance. A reprocessed steel cent will usually have a mirror-like bluish tinted finish with no frost.

Good luck and enjoy your steelies!



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 Posted 06/23/2019  03:10 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with @westernsky. It's not counterfeits you need to watch out for, it's "reprocessed," or re-plated, cents. Original surfaces are important on every coin, but especially so for steel cents because of the huge aftermarket.

The 1943-D you pictured looks okay to me.
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 Posted 06/23/2019  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brookeAD5683 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, thank y'all so much for your help!
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 Posted 06/23/2019  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse of your 1st steelie looks AU .The reverse looks a little dirty or stained with traces of wear .Be assured it is not counterfeit . If I had to give it a grade from what I'm seeing , AU-55/VF-35 Only because of the 2 major difference's of the obverse and reverse of this Lincoln Cent . Some members would Net grade this coin ,but I'll leave it up to them .
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 Posted 06/23/2019  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Check dd27's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add dd27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wikipedia has a good article on 1943 cents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1943_steel_cent

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 Posted 06/23/2019  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I mentioned "original surfaces" I meant "not reprocessed."
If any member has original 1943 cents perhaps you could post a picture -
let's help "brookeAD5683" to learn.
A quick look on eBay will show MANY examples of reprocessed cents.

My great aunt's collection of Lincolns had all three 1943 cents in AU+++
She NEVER bought a coin and in 1943 these coins had not the time to rust.
(She was born in 1900.)

I had never before seen a "natural, original 1943 cent" before....
They looked ""genuine!""





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 Posted 06/23/2019  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, I agree with spruett001 and T-BOP - the coin is not reprocessed.
If it had been reprocessed the "oil stain" would be gone.
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 Posted 06/23/2019  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Check Darth Morgan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If any member has original 1943 cents perhaps you could post a picture -
let's help "brookeAD5683" to learn.


No problem. Here's some from each of the mints:



My Eisenhower dollar Complete Variety Set, Circulation Strikes and Proof (PCGS Registry) - https://www.PCGS.com/SetRegistry/do...edset/119137
Darth Morgan - "The Other Ike dollars" Showcase: https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/showcase/3354
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 Posted 06/24/2019  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Many of these are available at almost any coin store, coin show and at most hobby stores. Kind of common old coin.
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 Posted 06/24/2019  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Darth Morgan for posting unprocessed 1943 cents!

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 Posted 06/24/2019  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brookeAD5683 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!Thanks, everyone everything in the links and comments has been really helpful so far.

I'll take a few more photos of the others and post them in the grading forum!
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 Posted 06/25/2019  09:26 am  Show Profile   Check Darth Morgan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Thanks Darth Morgan for posting unprocessed 1943 cents!

You're welcome! I love me some "silver" pennies.
My Eisenhower dollar Complete Variety Set, Circulation Strikes and Proof (PCGS Registry) - https://www.PCGS.com/SetRegistry/do...edset/119137
Darth Morgan - "The Other Ike dollars" Showcase: https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/showcase/3354
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 Posted 06/26/2019  03:08 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If any member has original 1943 cents perhaps you could post a picture


I took a quick pic of mine after getting the Philly coin from Coinfrog (Thanks!). It's not HQ...



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