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1851 O Three Cent Silver - Opinions Please

 
 
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 Posted 07/10/2019  9:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sir Derrin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is a recent acquisition and I would like opinions on grade. Yes - it is raw and debating on best place to send to get slabbed as well...





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 Posted 07/10/2019  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Check Onedollarbillnut's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Onedollarbillnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At-50. I would send it to ANACS. They don't require you to join anything or to go through a dealer.
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 Posted 07/10/2019  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Au55. Looks dipped lightly and mkt acceptable.
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 Posted 07/10/2019  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Check Redifin's eBay Listings Check Redifin's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add Redifin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree with everything OneDollar said, AU-50 and ANACS.
1. I'm no expert but I'll give my two cents.

2.My favorite coin so far: 1913 Buffalo nickel matte proof type II reverse
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 Posted 07/10/2019  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU53
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 Posted 07/11/2019  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-53 sounds about right.
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 Posted 07/11/2019  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU50 due to lack of luster based on the photos
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 Posted 07/11/2019  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir Derrin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin is kicking my butt on getting good pictures...
It does have mint luster but to dang shiny for a non washed out picture with what I have to work with... I just cant get lighting right to show it... Here is a couple more close up pictures...







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 Posted 07/11/2019  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Changing to AU Details Cleaned
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 Posted 07/13/2019  12:53 am  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't argue there, AU details / cleaned. Still quite collectible as such.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to come down very different...

/1/ It's a details grade because of the rim problems at K12 on the obverse.

/2/ It's a weak strike

/3/ It's low unc... I'd be at MS61 w/o the details grade so UNC Details (damaged)



On the reverse, the blue circle shows where the strike was so weak it didn't even fill in the orbs.

The red marks are the very highest points. I've never seen a coin below AU55 that still has the fins on the C. The four marked points on the shield are the first to show wear on the obverse (although if you look really carefully, you can sometimes see luster on the shield outline itself (the round blobs at the top that have a heraldic name).

I agree it's got terrible (i.e. no) lustre but I don't think that takes it down as low as AU50.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Burton ^ I don't think there is wear, more than likely it's all strike related. The cleaning is pretty obvious in the last set of photos, so MS61/62 details is what I'd expect a TPG to grade this one at, though I wouldn't be surprised with a straight AU grade either. TPGs can be very inconsistent on this series IMO.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be a good investment to get this one graded, even better if this grade as MS.

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 Posted 07/13/2019  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-58 details, cleaned.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir Derrin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin actually has good luster.... I can't get a good detail picture showing luster. It is not dark at all quite the opposite actually... I had to reduce the lighting even indirect lighting which in turn made it look dark... It is a very weak strike as BStrauss3 stated. These coins are notorious for bad strikes and under grading due to that issue... This one actually has some pretty strong doubling in the United States of America when viewed through a 20x loop... I will send it in one day and see what they come back with but I grade it at around MS62/63 with a very annoying rim ding at around the 12-1 o clock on the obverse.

I am open to suggestions on lighting for a shiny coin picture... not sum'in I do regularly...
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 Posted 07/13/2019  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
/ It's a details grade because of the rim problems at K12 on the obverse

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