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1907 Edward Gold Sovereign Grading

 
 
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 Posted 08/23/2019  1:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,
Can you help me grade this coin please?




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 Posted 08/23/2019  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/23/2019  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say MS-63.



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 Posted 08/23/2019  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for your help
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 Posted 08/27/2019  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both coins look like cast counterfeits to me. No grade.
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 Posted 08/27/2019  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IGE - I only see one coin here. Could you tell us more about why you think it is counterfeit?
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 Posted 08/28/2019  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Frog, I stand corrected, after looking closer I see it is the same coin in all four photos. What I see are the gas bubbles on the surfaces, the little raised bumps (best seen in photo #2 & #3). I also see lack of detail or incorrect detail in many locations, especially George's chest, face details, and dragon. Chances are it is real gold as many gold coins were counterfeited in Lebanon back in the 1970's and sold as bullion but fineness varied.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For reference, a PCGS MS-64 that sold recently
I had taken all those little marks to be surface dings, but always tough to tell.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are nicks also but what stood out to me are the numerous "raised" bumps both on the fields and design devices.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that I enlarge the pics, I think I see what you mean, at least on the reverse.
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 Posted 08/29/2019  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey guys
thanks for you help. As I know that in my country there is lot of fake Georges V gold sovereign .I didn't heard before of an Edward Vii fake one .Rarely you can find an Edward sovereign and they are sold in a price above the bullion value.
These are other pics from the same coin so you can definetly rule out if it is fake or not .Ive noticed that if you look on the coin from a specific angle it look like it has on the surface blackish spots all over the observe .It can be seen only in one of the pics.






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 Posted 08/29/2019  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the weight and diameter?
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 Posted 08/29/2019  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a gold coin 22ct ,I dont have precise scale to measure the diameter but using a ruler ,its between 22-23mm .
the weight is 8.0g on the scale .
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 Posted 08/31/2019  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VickySilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm, reverse does look a bit more suspect than the obverse and some curious details such as St. George's abdomen detail. What in the world is going on there? I think I will vote on appearance only as likely "good" gold counterfeit. I would really have been tempted to grade a similar legit coin as AU55.
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 Posted 08/31/2019  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,
I have send high def pics to a gold sovereign dealer.He said it is authentic and have a nice grade .He think it may take an AU58 grade
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 Posted 09/05/2019  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KaiserSoze to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well if it is genuine I'd say Au 55-58
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