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1909 VDB Penny. Toning Or Stain?

 
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 Posted 09/12/2019  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BuyGuns.....PCGS charges $32-$69 a coin depending
On the turn around you want!
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 Posted 09/12/2019  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuyGuns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Sarge...yea, I have checked out prices across the board for PCGS and NGC. Appreciate the heads up.

For anyone who may want to take a crack at it. First time I really looked close at this coin. I added a bunch of pictures, in different lighting, angles, etc.. You can clearly see in a few a YELLOWISH, sulfur like substance/look where that stain is. What I am trying to find out is what kind of dipping solution would cause that?

Lots of views to help in that effort. Also, I think the reverse has some evidence of the same thing, though more subtle.

Lastly...I am not in any way trying to convince you all, or even me, that maybe it's ok. I am more convinced now of your analysis in the first post, that is was a dip attempt, or at minimum got a bad stain somewhere along its long life. This is just a FYI and if anyone has an idea, fire away. Simple as that. Ignore if tired of this subject. :-)

Too bad they did that though, because it really is a nice coin in hand. Tremendous cartwheel luster all around, even through the gnarly stain. Pictures, no matter how I try, do it no justice. Anyway, all comments welcome.





















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09/12/2019 11:34 pm
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 Posted 09/13/2019  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You said "Abe looking back at himself"...looks more like Jerry Lewis to me...
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 Posted 09/13/2019  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuyGuns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK...or my first thought was Ulysses S Grant. Makes sense. They worked together. Coins have history. There ya go.





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09/13/2019 03:06 am
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 Posted 09/13/2019  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, it's your coin, so Grant it is........
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 Posted 09/13/2019  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a details coin by any definition. Why are we still talking about it?
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 Posted 09/14/2019  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Calling it a stain glorifies it, IMO. A better way to describe it is DAMAGE caused in part by someone most likely trying to chemically clean it (which also explains the "luster"). Personally I'd pass on it.

And too, I agree with Coinfrog. next?
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 Posted 09/15/2019  02:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuyGuns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gentlemen (and/or ladies)...I was just trying to understand WHAT chemical was used to attempt this failed cleaning. That's all. A knowledge seeking question, apart from the first, now dead issue question. I made it clear I was not looking to beat a dead horse. The coin is a loss. I was simply asking, with better pictures, does anybody know what may have been used to attempt to clean this given the yellowish tone we see (dipping solution)? Note I said I accepted all conclusions of first run.

I also stated if you don't want to comment as it has been addressed....ignore. Plain English. No takers? Not a problem.

And Grant it is there Greasy!! It is now a conversation piece, with history at its core. Very cool. It's name? (as I name my coins). "Mr. Lincoln Grant" Onward to the next subject.
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