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How About This, What's The Best Way To Prevent A Crime?

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 Posted 09/15/2019  5:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Still In Circ to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So just reading through this thread, I see lots of robberies and murders over coins. I thought maybe someone should post something on how to get some ideas on preventing crimes. Now I don't think arming yourself or your house to the teeth is the best idea, but what about others that could have some good ideas? Just comment below your thoughts!
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 Posted 09/15/2019  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Still In Circ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will start, how about first, buying a safe that has a manual locking mechanism versus a magnetic. A thief maybe able to just put a giant magnet up to the safe door and actually pull the door open. Second, if you don't feel comfortable about buying a VERY expensive coin and not having the protection for it, then don't buy it. It would be better to invest in the security of the investment versus the investment being lost because of someone not buying the security for it. Hope this gets the ball rolling!
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 Posted 09/15/2019  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dunno if you saw still in circ, but the LCS I work at got hit in a smash and grab. The stuff in the display got stolen but everything of value was in the safe. I think the manager has a .45 in his car, but that's it.
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 Posted 09/15/2019  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Still In Circ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I read it Grape, that stinks big time. But it goes to show that the safe is the best and most secure place. But for conventional collectors at home, should we get massive vaults/stages built into our homes? What's your take on home coin security?
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 Posted 09/15/2019  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Standfast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

While you're right about a good safe (and maybe even more importantly, a good hiding place for it). There's also how you get it home. Was it delivered or installed, or did you bring it home yourself?

I think it starts with awareness. Things like, being careful with who knows about your collection, and paying attention as you leave the coin shop, and drive home. I also make sure no one can tell I'm carrying coins or supplies as I'm walking up my driveway into the house.

And, while I'm not armed to the teeth, I am armed to the hip.
Seriously though, a little concern about your surroundings and appearance goes a long way.



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 Posted 09/15/2019  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Put your safe in your panic room. PR doors are steel in steel locking all four sides.
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 Posted 09/15/2019  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At home our security is a safe and a .22 (essentially a tic-tac gun).
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 Posted 09/15/2019  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Still In Circ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
-Standfest very good ideas! I will have to implement some of your ideas into my coin shop routines. I am also a very cautious person that always scans the environment for anomalies or other hazards. Makes me feel safe and secure.
Moxking- if we all had panic rooms... lol
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 Posted 09/15/2019  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep your expensive coins in a safe "off site" and having Smith & Wesson as friends don't hurt either.
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 Posted 09/15/2019  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I make do with a safe and a rifle, and I've never had any problems.

I think the bast thing you can do is to be careful about who you tell about your hobby. Thieves can't steal your coins if they don't know you have them.
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 Posted 09/15/2019  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Still In Circ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some pretty solid responses I am hearing! Like it!
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 Posted 09/15/2019  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're about my age circ, I still got a year before I can add anything of my own to my defensive repitour. Many collectors do carry or own some type of firearm. I would suggest you do the same.
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 Posted 09/16/2019  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Standfast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
Many collectors do carry or own some type of firearm. I would suggest you do the same.


As a concealed carry permit holder, I feel that that's great advice GrapeCollects! Especially since, if I understand correctly, you work in a coin shop, which puts you into a different category with regard to needing to protect yourself (awesome job, by the way).

What I hope everyone remembers though, is that a gun should not give you an increased sense of confidence or safety. It is no substitute for being aware of your environment and how you present yourself. If you're careful, you'll likely never need your gun.

Safe travels everyone!
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 Posted 09/18/2019  06:13 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a great video I put up a few years ago, lots of very important information contained, many things most people wouldn't think of.

http://goccf.com/t/138498&whichpage=2#1261506

THings like don't have the safe delivered by a company van that advertises safes or locksmiths, don't forget an alarm system on the safe as well, have it bolted no matter how big and heavy it is. Granted these guys are big on Fort Knox safes and the video is made for gun storage, but almost every point applies to coin guys too. I wouldn't keep any large amounts of ammo near my coins either, but I do have some along with guns in mine. It's also hidden, so an average home break in might not even uncover it, we had some dead space in a wall as large as a small coat closet we could use to put it into. I also endorse the Fort Knox safe they are top of the line.
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 Posted 09/18/2019  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some of us would say:
"Carry a gun".

In Australia, I do not know of anyone who has a gun.
They are just too much bother. The gun has to be kept in a gun safe, the ammo stored separately, and the key secured. Or the gun won't be licensed, nor will the owner. Reviewed and inspected every two years. Authorities do psycho and criminal record checks.

The only people who have guns are the criminals.
They ignore all of the above.
Because of this, if I found out if anyone had a gun, I would feel obliged to report it to the police, to check their records.

Gun clubs are reasonably popular in Australia, but you need a separate license to shoot feral animals.
Feral pigs, foxes and cats are a major threat to Australian native wildlife.

I am glad I don't live in the more dangerous parts of the Middle East or South America.
If that were the case, I wouldn't collect coins.
Some would rather fake them instead.

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I do, however have a small hidden safe for my more valuable coins. My safe consists of 90 pounds of 1/4 plate steel, bolted to the floor in the bottom of a cupboard, and covered with a rather innocuous looking corrugated cardboard box. Indiscriminate junk tossed over the top of that.
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 Posted 11/21/2019  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redzapsid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Posting in detail on the internet where your have your safe hidden kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?
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