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2016 P Roosevelt Dime - Dryer Or Hammered Coin?

 
 
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 Posted 09/17/2019  01:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AliLyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, I was hoping to get an opinion on this dime. Is it a dryer coin or has it been hammered down, or something else? It looks like a DDR on back torch and olive branches but possibly from PMD, or possibly not?
I am new to this, so I apologize if I refer to something incorrect, I have never found a DDR or DDO myself but it appears like one here with the naked eye, but I also read all the 2016 coins were full of errors, in all denominations..so I figured I'd check with the pros regarding the collar before sending closeups.

Thanks in advance,
Ali




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 Posted 09/17/2019  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AliLyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The edge just looks so smooth and clean like a nickel, and not tampered but like I said, I'm a newbie
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 Posted 09/17/2019  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It look evenly hammered around the edge, removing the reeds and causing the extra wide coin rim...

That's my opinion... but I'd wait for some other feedback ;)
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 Posted 09/17/2019  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In fact, you can actually see some of the reeding pattern that was formerly on the rim that is now flattened down...
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 Posted 09/17/2019  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AliLyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It almost looks like letters too on collar (edge/rim) but I haven't taken any closeups of that yet to confirm and figured I'd ask first before "investigating" more, and literally have to look at every definition of every thing possible lol and find out if dryer or hammer first
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 Posted 09/17/2019  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AliLyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It almost looks counterfeit, lol but I've never seen a coin hammered down either
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 Posted 09/17/2019  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AliLyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you eye4error for your quick feedback
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 Posted 09/17/2019  01:27 am  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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The coin didn't leave the mint like that. The rim has been "hammered" or "spooned." It really looks like someone worked the metal up and smoothed it with some type of machine.

It could be a dryer coin, but if it is, it seems to have only traveled in a tighter and tighter circle to build the edge up like that.
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 Posted 09/17/2019  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Bawillis, first welcome to CCF. Second, for sure this is damage--the unresolved question is how was it damaged. When the enlarged rim is smooth (like yours), we usually call these dryer coins. When it has a more pebbly texture, then we say that it has been spooned. In reality, it could be either of these things (or something else).
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 Posted 09/17/2019  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I lean toward deliberate alteration.



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Thanks everyone, this will help me in future when I see similar damage. I forgot I had this big jar from the 80's in the back of my closet I used for change. Hopefully I'll find something out of it. It'll be fun anyways


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 Posted 09/18/2019  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It hasn't been spooned and it's not a dryer coin. It was rolled and squeezed in the horizontal plane in an automated or hand-cranked mechanical device. Such devices are sometimes used to reduce the diameter of pipes so they can fit into the end of another pipe.
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 Posted 09/18/2019  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a damaged coin, PSD. Mike nailed it.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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