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1849 Braided Hair Cent -- Weight Is 11.51g Instead Of 10.89g -- Fake?

 
 
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 Posted 09/17/2019  6:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add orrinw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello folks, today I received a 1849 Braided Hair cent from an eBay seller (100% positive feedback), price was about $26, looks like VF or EF details but with a few minor dings.

The specs say diameter should be 27mm. It's about 27.7mm.

The specs say it should weigh 10.89g. It weighs 11.51g.

Could someone kindly opine on whether my coin is within specs?

I see there are sellers in China who are selling 'copies' for $12. Discouraging.

Thanks for any comments.

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 Posted 09/17/2019  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Discouraging.


Yes very. Any chance of you posting pictures of the front and back of this piece? Thanks and welcome to CCF.
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 Posted 09/17/2019  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pics or a link would really help.



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 Posted 09/17/2019  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to CCF orrin. Please do post photos or a link to the original auction. There are some folks that are very knowledgeable about coppers on this site.
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 Posted 09/17/2019  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orrinw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for replies! Here are my photos of the coin, plus portions of the eBay listing. ... I weighed the coin on two different digital scales, and they both say 11.5g +-0.05g.





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 Posted 09/17/2019  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
27.5 diameter and 10.89 weight when minted. I would think the weight would be less not more with wear. Coin looks ok but unless scales are off I am not sure about it.
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 Posted 09/17/2019  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The planchet thickness (and weight) for late date Braided Hair cents varied quite a bit from Mint specifications during production. I have seen plenty of late date large cents with both thicker and thinner planchets. I'll weigh some of mine later for more data to see how closely it compares. The coin itself looks perfectly fine to me, I don't see any obvious signs of it being a fake.
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 Posted 09/17/2019  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks fine. Diameter is good. Allowable mint tolerance on weight was up to 11.34 grams. You're good.
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 Posted 09/18/2019  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orrinw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the analysis and comments. I think I came to the right place.

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 Posted 09/18/2019  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CitationSquirrel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A nice looking Braided Hair Large Cent. If you determine the Newcomb variety on it let us know.
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 Posted 09/18/2019  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me, welcome !
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I don't see any red flags with this one.
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