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 Posted 09/18/2019  8:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




This is a very interesting 1940 era Wheat penny, it was minted with absolutely no I in liberty, it hasn't been worn down or anything, and also looks like a double stamp on the last number in the year? Can someone help me figure out what to call this error, and how much it holds in value.
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 Posted 09/18/2019  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF! It might be a partial Grease Filled Die issue on the "I" in "LIBERTY", but the picture isn't clear enough to be sure. The 9 of the date looks like a hit, causing the metal to get pushed over and flattened. https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.h...-errors/amp/
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 09/18/2019  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also here the reverse side of that 40s error wheat I posted, there's something one of the wheats and it's raised up so it isn't a scratch, and idea folks?
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 Posted 09/18/2019  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a reverse Interior Die Break, on the reverse. http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-ce...k-1909-1958/
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 09/18/2019  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any idea on price range and do you think that 9 was man made or machine made? Thanks for taking a look too!
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 Posted 09/18/2019  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also what do you think caused that I to not be there, like you can tell there wasn't ever one there, it looks like perfect coin surface
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 Posted 09/18/2019  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're very welcome, for the help! Ayotech1, I need a much clearer picture, in order to rule that Grease Filled Die issue out from damage that happened out of the mint (after it was struck). Please get a clearer picture for me of the obverse, if you can.

As far as value goes for the reverse Interior Die Break, maybe 3 dollars at best. Interior Die Breaks are fairly common, on the 1940's and 1950's Lincoln Wheat Cents, do to extended die use.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 09/18/2019  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hang tight for me and I'll post one up. I also have a BIE error as well is like you to take a peek at you haw time it's a 1955
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 Posted 09/18/2019  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 09/18/2019  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW, really? 3 dollars?...I was thinking maybe 5 or 6 for a dollar and that seems like over paying
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 Posted 09/18/2019  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Greasy Fingers, I tried to think what someone would pay realistically for one. They are somewhat common on the Lincoln Wheat Cents.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 09/18/2019  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you think about thos error It's a 1955 BIE error from what I can gather, any help identifying? It looks really worn on liberty but order actually not, the b and e are like barely visible and the coins it good shape no ware anywhere on the edges, dates any other words
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 Posted 09/18/2019  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And excuse be that's not my bie error.
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 Posted 09/19/2019  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply




This likes like an off center strike or a DD, it's messed up in god we trust pretty good! What kind of error is that, and how bout a value? 800M minted of them from Denver. What're y'all's thoughts?
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09/19/2019 01:15 am
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 Posted 09/19/2019  01:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ayotech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of the lettering in, In god we trust is above the the indent, so it definitely wasn't man made after mints
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09/19/2019 01:38 am
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 Posted 09/19/2019  04:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ayotech1, first welcome to CCF. Second, in order to better help you, improving your pics would be very useful. These are really tough to see what you have, especially with old eyes. Also, it is best practice to start a new thread with each new coin--that helps us when we go back and are searching for a specific coin. Thanks and sorry to be a bit of a grouch this morning.

With that said, I agree that your first coin has a RIDB or perhaps die crack. I can't see anything with your second coin. Your last coin does not look mis-aligned, but a pic that is in-focus would help. It may be that the die from which it was struck was nearing the end of its life.
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