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1888 Cent With Triple Punched 8's. Please Check Out The Pictures .

 
 
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 Posted 10/15/2019  9:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add yontan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have taken the best pictures I could to show why I think this cent rates looking at. Some of the pictures are shown upside down, because of lighting problems, and because they show the triple punching better. Please look carefully, and let me know what you think.




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 Posted 10/15/2019  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doubling is clear, nice photography. Others will have more input.
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 Posted 10/16/2019  02:21 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is definitely something going on. This has to be a known veriety, right? Calling all Canadian collectors!
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 Posted 10/16/2019  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We (our 4 man collector cadre)included only a few of the 1888 varieties in the 65th edition (2011)of Charlton that covered the Vicky cant varieties in the back. I will quote from the entry on p324 that described an example with all 3 8's repunched:

"All 1888 working dies displayed repunched middle numeral 8's, inherited from the matrices. The engravers often repunched one, two, or three of the numeral 8's in the Reverse working dies, creating many variations of the repunched 1888 dates."

ALL final 8's were handpunched into the "188" three-digit working dies, so there is also a great variation of the spacing between the middle 8 and the last 8. After looking at thousands of these, I found that a great many had the numeral "1" also repunched. 1888 was a large mintage year, so a great deal of repunching was done to extend the life of the working dies, so they had complete, readable dates. There is a member on this site who is doing/has done a thorough study on the 1888's ... I forget how many different dies/repunches that he found, as well as some Obverse differences.
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 Posted 10/16/2019  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.
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 Posted 10/16/2019  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your first photo is a provincial cent (1858-1859). Do you have the correct obverse photo for the 1888?

It's a very nice re-punch and good photos! In my opinion it is triple punched on the first 8 and probably the 1 also. The 1 would only show up on a high grade coin.
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 Posted 10/16/2019  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First if you look closely at L7 there may or may not be a small D/C, also this die will develop a cir D/C threw the top of DEI in later die states.
The obverse when shown will have a D/C between the C & A in Canada. The D in DEI will be missing the bottom serif, all other letters will be normal.
This is a known variety at least to me it is.
Beautiful coin and very nice close-up pictures.
There are a number of 1888 dies with all 8's re-punched and others with the complete date re-punched.

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 Posted 10/16/2019  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yontan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all of you. okiecoiner, as usual I defer to your knowledge. I had the reference, just didn't read it carefully. Phil310 Yes, I have the correct photo, but I have tried twice to edit the posting, remove the provincial cent and post the correct photo, but nothing seems to work. How do I get rid of the first photo and post the second? Bill
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 Posted 10/16/2019  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some of the well-offset 8's from the 1888's. You will find 1, 2, or all 3 8's well-doubled.







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