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 Posted 11/15/2019  06:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vstefanyuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Yet another puzzle :)

Actually, this was bought from unreliable seller which do sell mostly forgery. But there were a few species which do look unusual and this is one of them.

Weight is 1.4 gr, material probably bronze.

Any thoughts are welcome :)

Could provide better photo if needed.

Thanks!


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 Posted 11/15/2019  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A weird coin indeed, I've not seen anything like that before.
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 Posted 11/15/2019  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@vstefanyuk, my initial thought was that this looked vaguely Aksumite, but there are several problems with this:

1. No match in my Munro-Hay. There are some with a portrait on either side, but none have that anchor-thing in front like your first picture shows.
2. Copper Aksum coins used Ge'ez script whereas your coin has Latin letters.

Since you purchased this from a known peddler of forgeries, is it possible that this is just a fantasy?
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 Posted 11/16/2019  05:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vstefanyuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, it could be not genuine. But the way it looks, leaves some hope. Could it be an imitation?
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 Posted 11/16/2019  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The design looks a bit like some Merovingian coins, and there are examples with a similar form of cross in front of the face.

However, I have not seen any Merovingians with portraits on both sides. There is usually a non-figurative design, sometimes an animal, on the other side. Also, although Merovingians can have rather well-formed letters in some cases, the inscription here is unexpectedly neat and regular.

Another group of coins with rustic portraits is Anglo-Saxon sceattas, but the portraits have a somewhat different style and inscriptions are rare - so less likely.

Even though I don't see a direct match with any Merovingian, that possibility shouldn't be ruled out - the style of those span over a wide range and I would think there are many non-cataloged examples. If you want to explore this possibility further, there are ancient but perfectly useable works online, like Prou's Les Monnaies Mérovingiennes: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/b...990533.image

But, one should also not rule out the possibility that this is a product of the Fantasy Mint.
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11/16/2019 07:55 am
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 Posted 11/16/2019  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vstefanyuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@erafjel thanks! Will look into resource you provided.
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 Posted 11/16/2019  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vstefanyuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Btw, found some coin with portraits on both sides (maybe there are more):




Another thought, I do see there also some little silver shining. So, it could be also that it was silvered coin.
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 Posted 11/16/2019  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice work!
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 Posted 11/17/2019  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nobody is perfect. Even the most notorious fakesters may be fooled on occasion by a genuine coin, right?
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11/17/2019 3:41 pm
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