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 Posted 01/04/2020  11:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jay1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This coin is 2.8 grams and 19mm. I'm not getting any hits when I try to search the Greek text. Any ideas?


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 Posted 01/05/2020  05:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just going by the portrait looks like Caracalla...

(A)V ANTΩ..........But just a guess!
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 Posted 01/05/2020  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse legend may include ΘP-AKΩN, which in turn might suggest that the ON that precedes it is from KOINON. But I don't know of a KOINON ΘPAKΩN followed, as we seem to have here, by ΠYO.

Edit: although I didn't find a match I do see that there are issues from Philipopolis that include, on their reverses, both KOINON ΘPAKΩN and ΠYΘI. So it may well be ΠYΘI at lower right.
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01/05/2020 10:06 am
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 Posted 01/05/2020  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did a search on "KOINON ΘPAKΩN ΠYΘI" and it led me to a text at academia.edu - THRAKIKA ZETEMATA II: ASPECTS OF THE ROMAN PROVINCE OF THRACE, edited by Maria - Gabriella G. Parissaki.

More specifically, it led me to Ulrike Peter's essay "MÜNZEN MIT DER LEGENDE KOINON ΘPAKΩN" ("Coins with the legend KOINON ΘPAKΩN"). In that essay, which is in German, there are several references to AE's with the "KOINON ΘPAKΩN ΠYΘI" sequence - a variant, she says, of the longer legend "KOINON ΘPAKΩN AΛEZANΔPIA EN ΦIΛIΠΠOΠOΛI ΠYΘIA" and "KOINON ΘPAKΩN AΛEZANΔPIA ΠYΘIA EN ΦIΛIΠΠOΠOΛI."

Might be worth a read if you want to invest the time. Keep the Google translator handy if you don't read German. But it does appear that the coin is perhaps an emission of Philippopolis within the Thracian KOINON.

It might also be worthwhile to send an inquiry and jpeg to Ulrike Peter. I see a link to her email address at https://coinsweekly.com/whoswho/peter-ulrike/

If you do so, please keep us updated. Neat little mystery.
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01/05/2020 11:02 am
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 Posted 01/05/2020  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bob, Thanks for your research! I just emailed the author of that article. Hopefully she can shed some light on this coin. I'll update this thread with any info I receive...
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 Posted 01/17/2020  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I received a response from Ulrike Peter regarding this coin. It is indeed from Philippopolis (Thrace) from the reign of Caracalla from the year AD 212.

She sent a file from Ivan Varbanov's The Coinage of Philippopolis showing 6 images of this coin.

The obverse shows the bust of Caracalla and the legend: AY K M AYCEYAN TΩNEINOC

The reverse shows a naked athlete with wreath and spear with the legend: KOINONΘP AKΩNΠYΘI

Thanks for all of your help!

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 Posted 01/17/2020  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome. Yet another case of a generous scholar helping out a collector. Love it.

Thanks for letting us know, Jay.
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 Posted 01/17/2020  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just love this sort of thread
I am a generalist, not a specialist; that is why I need the specialists; that is why I am in the CCF.

BTW, the color and the lighting suggests brass, not bronze.
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