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1858 Flying Eagle Cent DDO? DDR? Dso?

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 Posted 01/07/2020  4:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This one has alot going on.



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 Posted 01/07/2020  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry about the rotation,took pictures straight and they came up rotated
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 Posted 01/07/2020  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Use the Preview feature to check your pics before you post them.



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 Posted 01/07/2020  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Will look at it next time before posting
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 Posted 01/07/2020  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn70 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is something not right with this flying eagle. Any thoughts from our veteran members?
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01/07/2020 7:17 pm
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 Posted 01/07/2020  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely looks altered, maybe acid damage?
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 Posted 01/07/2020  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely waiting for expert lol. The only alterations on this was when it was struck. Has alot more to show then what these pictures show
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 Posted 01/08/2020  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ZenFE99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty sure this is counterfeit. Dentils look wrong, devices and lettering look mushy. Very grainy/cast appearance from pics.
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Took the liberty and rotate image in order to get a better view, something is out of order.

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 Posted 01/08/2020  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the rotation Macmercury,really don't understand the quiet side from everyone. Definitely not one you see everyday. Has a lot of interesting raised areas on the reverse and obverse. Closer view with a scope it appears it may have had a bad off center strike and then struck over. Just a whole lot for a rookie to figure out. Hopefully a flying eagle pro Will step in and offer some insight
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 Posted 01/08/2020  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ZenFE99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to be that guy, but I'll say it again after looking longer,,, 99.9% sure that's a fake.
The obverse letting isn't concentric to the rim. It's a small letter variety,,,but the letters are wrong. Look at the last 'S' in States, waaay wrong. Date is wrong font.

Unless something weird like acid as someone mentioned after it left the mint,,, then this coin never the mint, it left China.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
opinion noted, but I'll wait for some heavely experienced opinion's to chime in. If it takes sending it to someone to be authenticated so be,but I've yet to hear from and expert on this. Almost like know one wants to jump in, really strange for this forum. I fully understand this is not a everyday find with so much going on and it's possible in 162 years someone cleaned it wasn't me but acid is not going to leave the details that are on this coin. Problem here is not someone trying to pass one over on somebody, but more like no one has ever seen one before. But at the same time no advice from the upper ranks have chimed in and that's what I'm waiting for. Thanks for all comments so far but would you throw a gold dollar in a junk jar because someone said it was painted just saying.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you weighed it? Is it magnetic?
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 Posted 01/08/2020  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ZenFE99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's real, it's a cool coin for sure. Double/Triple die/struck possibly.
Looks like - Small letters, low leaves, Open E in ONE....

A couple of other things I see:
Top most tail feather appears slightly short at the end.
Date font wrong, very thin.
There is a variety of Open E for the 1858, but I think even then it looks slightly different then the E in CENT. Yours appear to be identical, and overall mushy.

With you - I would love to hear some other opinions.

I'm no expert, but I live to collect 1857 Flying Eagle varieties, mostly the clashes (and we're talking hundreds of examples). Anything FE garners my attention, and part of my collection includes all the counterfeits I can get my hands on. Right now I'm working on two new/unattributed varieties for the 1857FE, and will hopefully be posting them here in the near future.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight is 4.7 and trying to find a magnet kid had it
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 Posted 01/08/2020  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newfinds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just Carl,XenFe99 I'm going to try and load some more pictures.Taking and loading pictures on here seems to give me problems so it might take me a bit. And it is not magnetic. Next question or comments please lol
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