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The Fabled 1933 Penny Proof

 
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 Posted 01/10/2020  5:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jellis to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Are the proof coins of any value?
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 Posted 01/10/2020  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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01/10/2020 5:25 pm
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 Posted 01/10/2020  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you show us some pics?
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 Posted 01/11/2020  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think most early 20th century proofs are worth something.
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 Posted 01/11/2020  03:08 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe The Royal Mint produced any proof standard 1933 pennies. If they did, they would be worth lots. There are about 7 or 8 known circulation coins, and about the same of the patterns for this year - all worth mega bucks.
BUT there are now tons of modern replicas/fakes of these around. If these are what you are referring to, then no - not much value. No genuine collector would touch them, except as a token gap-filler for a few pounds.
If anyone shows you a 1933 penny, unless it comes with cast iron provenance, it's a fake. No amount of examination can prove it otherwise - even The Royal Mint has admitted they can't tell some of them apart anymore.
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 Posted 01/11/2020  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

You're quite right Paddy, they didn't.
I suspect the post refers to a replica being advertised as a proof rather than copy or fantasy coin.
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Exactly as Hogarth has indicated with his Ebay link to replicas currently for sale there - the pictured coin is a modern fantasy/replica coin. Even if I were not automatically going to assume any 1933 penny turning up without provenance was a replica, the detail on the one shown is clearly wrong. Most noticeably the hair is far too pronounced and detailed. The reverse is also too bold - clearly had a computer involved in its construction with the result that the lines are too obvious - almost cartoon-like.
Going rate seems to be around 4 including postage.
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 Posted 01/11/2020  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nowt wrong with hoping but this, and the bad repro Eddie 3d; I seriously hope you didn't buy these after being told they're both the real thing.

https://24carat.co.uk/frame.php?url=1933penny.html

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 Posted 01/11/2020  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jellis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They were in a collection that I have been given. There are some more penny in there as well.
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 Posted 01/11/2020  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jellis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if they are real or copies. They are part of a collective that is 50yrs old. Still hot a lot to go through. Haven't even started on the bank notes yet. But have found homes for some British militaria. So thank you to all that have replied.
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