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What's With The 2019 $1 Coins With Two Different Effigies

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 Posted 01/15/2020  02:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Stekky to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So I've recently noticed 2019 minted $1 coins that have two different queens effigies? Can anybody clarify why this might be?
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 Posted 01/15/2020  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add X2an to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Queen is getting old. This new effigy was released last year in Australia to provide a more up-to-date look of the Queen. Of course, this was done much earlier at home in the UK, with British coinage carrying this new effigy since 2015. Note that due to copyright reasons (as I understand it), coinage bearing the new effigy outside of the UK need to have the Queen's sholders included. Hope this helps
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 Posted 01/15/2020  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So I've recently noticed 2019 minted $1 coins that have two different queens effigies? Can anybody clarify why this might be?

'On 2 March 2015 The Royal Mint revealed a new effigy of Queen Elizabeth II, which went into production in the United Kingdom that very day. The new portrait was designed by Jody Clark, the first Royal Mint engraver to be chosen to create a definitive royal coinage portrait in over 100 years.

At that time, the Royal Australian Mint decided to continue with the Fourth Portrait by Ian Rank-Broadley. This was changed halfway through 2019; consequently, in 2019 some one dollar coins were issued with the Fourth Portrait and some with the Fifth Portrait.'


https://onlinecoin.club/Coins/Count...Dollar_2019/
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 Posted 01/15/2020  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stekky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So in saying that, whats it ever going to value at in years to come?
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 Posted 01/15/2020  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


This Effigy could be worth money in the years ahead,your Oz. ones not so much.LOL


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 Posted 01/23/2020  05:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So in saying that, whats it ever going to value at in years to come?


The old effigy doesn't appear in any sets in 2019 so truly uncirculated examples should retain some value I think.
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 Posted 01/23/2020  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The old effigy doesn't appear in any sets in 2019 ...
Not sure what you mean by this?
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 Posted 01/24/2020  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are no mint sets or whatever where you can get a guaranteed uncirculated example of the old portrait 2019 coins (as far as I can tell).
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 Posted 01/25/2020  06:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gotya!
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 Posted 01/25/2020  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I understand it, the effigy in Australia was changed about halfway through 2019.

What coins are are rare and what are common, depends entirely on the number minted of each effigy / denomination combination. Mint won't release mintage numbers until mid second half of year 2020.
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 Posted 01/25/2020  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There are no mint sets or whatever where you can get a guaranteed uncirculated example of the old portrait 2019 coins (as far as I can tell).


The RAM sold bags of uncirculated 2019-dated old and new effigy coins at its Road Show pop-up shops in 2019.
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 Posted 01/25/2020  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Gotya!


I should say there was no set containing the new portrait in 2019. But the point remains.


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The RAM sold bags of uncirculated 2019-dated old and new effigy coins at its Road Show pop-up shops in 2019.


I got myself some though I haven't opened them yet. The ones I got in previous years were okay but the heavier coins (50c, $1 and $2) tend to get pretty bag-marked in the bags unfortunately.
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 Posted 01/30/2020  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Squire Wilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the "five ages of Queen Elizabeth II" as shown on the obverse of our 5 cent coins. Note the "old" and "new" versions of the 2019 coins
I found it difficult to photograph this group of really shiny coins

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 Posted 01/30/2020  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Here are the "five ages of Queen Elizabeth II" as shown on the obverse of our 5 cent coins.
Nice group!
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 Posted 10/23/2020  03:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brismike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fifth Effigy as shown above is actually the sixth Effigy or 6th Portrait. although the Vladimir Gottwald 5th Effigy did not ever appear on a 5 cent coin due to it being a one off on the 2000 Royal Visit 50 cent.

I know it is confusing but the effigies go like this.

Gillick - 1st portrait of Queen Elizabeth II facing right wearing a laurel

Machin - 2nd portrait of Queen Elizabeth II facing right wearing the Girls of Great Britain and Ireland Tiara

Makleouf - 3rd portrait of Queen Elizabeth II facing right wearing the King George IV State Diadem

Rank-Broadley - 4th portrait of Queen Elizabeth II facing right wearing the Girls of Great Britain and Ireland Tiara

Gottwald - 5th portrait of Queen Elizabeth II facing right wearing the Girls of Great Britain & Ireland Tiara.

Clark - 6th portrait of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II facing right wearing the King George IV State Diadem and the Victorian Coronation Necklace.

Not sure if you guys have ever seen this coin it is a beauty with all 6 portraits as used on Australian coinage of Queen Elizabeth II. It is the reverse of a Tokelau $5



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