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 Posted 01/20/2020  7:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Peterhk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi All,

I know there is no records of a 1974 P Ike Silver Dollar (only S proofs or the mistaken and very scarce D mint mark coins)... or I have not seen any info anywhere and was hoping to get some input from the community.

This weighs 23.18g and as you can see in the pics the side of the coin doesn't have the clad color or 2 tones like most clad coins, which is the main reason I am not sure how else to verify. I don't get the thumping or dropping the coin test (or that seems so wrong if you don't want to damage it) - but since there isn't any records of a 74' P silver Ike, the only other option would mean it is a fake, right!?!

Any thoughts, suggestions or info would be greatly appreciated.

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 Posted 01/20/2020  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has the appearance of being plated, the reason for slight weight gain, silver Ike weight 24.59 grams. Clad Ike is 22.68 grams.

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 Posted 01/20/2020  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that would also answer why you don't see the clad layer.

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 Posted 01/20/2020  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was nickel-plated (one of several possible plating metals), then it would be weakly attracted to a magnet. Maybe give that a quick shot with this coin?

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Appears to be a plated Ike.
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 Posted 01/21/2020  04:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peterhk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the welcome Spence ~ I tried the magnet but it didn't stick/move.

Sorry for the silly question, but when you guys say 'plated', does that mean it was painted or dipped (not sure what)... is the coin worthless - if so, should I scraped and see what it is coated with?

Many thanks for your responses and assistance!
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@peter, you should definitely not scrape the surface of this coin until we have more certainty. Plating is a chemical or electrochemical process for adding metal to the surface of an object. Wikipedia has tons of info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plating


Perhaps you can also post a close-up of the coin where the S mintmark should be? I can't see it from these pics, but I wonder if someone has polished that feature away.
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 Posted 01/21/2020  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight is well within tolerance for a copper nickel clad Ike. It is well OUT of tolerance for a 40% silver clad Ike. It has the appearance of a not so well done plating job.

It isalmost certainly plated. Since it shows no attraction to a magnet it is probably not a nickel plating. If you really want to know what was used you will probably have to have an XRF test done. But in any case it did not come from the mint like that.
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 Posted 01/22/2020  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peterhk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone... sorry for the late reply, I took closeups and don't think I see any possible mint marks that could have been polished away... (but to be honest if I stare at anything long enough, I can see anything I want it to be... if you know what I mean, lol) Photo attached and thanks again in advance, the responses and assistance has been amazing here.
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