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2018 P WDDR-005 Jefferson Nickel Find!

 
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 Posted 01/20/2020  9:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
There was only one in the entire UNC roll, and it had been chilling in my room for who knows how long. I have been wanting to find this one badly!

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 Posted 01/20/2020  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find! Interesting to see this kind of doubled die on a modern coin.

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 Posted 01/20/2020  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe WDDR-005 is a doubled die at all.

1. It doesn't match the shape of the L. L has rounded corners, the "doubling" has sharper corners.
2. The way the "doubling" tapers off is unusual for a doubled die. Doubling caused by a doubled die typically fades away at the edges and soft rounded ends. This one ends at a sharp point at the bottom.
3. There are no doubled dies with this kind of isolated doubling so far from the center of the coin known on nickels.
4. How common are tripled dies on modern coins? Very rare. What are the odds that a tripled die (rare in and of itself) also happens to be isolated doubling far from the center of the coin (Impossible, if not extremely rare).

It doesn't look like a doubled die and it is extremely unlikely to be one due to the type of doubling and its location on the coin. I think these are just coincidental die gouges just like the ones above the building.

Still an interesting coin and a neat find, but I doubt it's a doubled die.
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01/20/2020 9:59 pm
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 Posted 01/21/2020  11:54 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still a great find regardless!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 01/21/2020  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it is a Wexler listing. I feel it is a doubled die. It has the shape of the hub mark on it twice. So during the creation of the die, the hub was moving into the correct alignment and finally snapped into place. If it didn't look like part of the design, then I would agree with you, but it does copy the hubs design. While it looks like such a big thing, actually to the die hub alignment, the hub movement is minor. (We forget we are looking at it through a microscope) The lines are die scratches, not die gouges. They remain strongest, closest in on the devices, weakest in the open fields. Even stronger inside of contained devices and bays.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 01/22/2020  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate the responses! :-)
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