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A Very Interesting 20c 2014. Multiple Errors. Or PMD. Need Help Please.

 
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Australia
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 Posted 01/25/2020  09:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NewAussieCollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everybody, I found this 20c a few days. Have gone through a few coin groups I am in on Facebook.
And it is all mixed, as to PMD or a genuine error.
The coin weighs 11.34g. I also weighed a few other 20c and they weighed, sort of between 11.32-11.33g.
The coin, tails side. Does seem slightly taller then a standard 20c.
When side by side with a 20c, they line up together to the rim.
When a standard coin is on top, the error coin is slightly larger in diameter.
It is a real head scratch! Would anybody here be able to me please:)


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 Posted 01/25/2020  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the CCF

Could you take a picture of the edge.
May be a partial collar strike.
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 Posted 01/25/2020  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewAussieCollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it isn't a partial collar. I found a 20c partial, and it is completely different. I am currently not at home. I have got alot of photos. But I am struggling, to try and get them uploaded on here.
If you have Facebook, I have posted in a couple of groups, with a fair few photos.
I will try and get better images when I am home. Or can send images via email if needed.
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 Posted 01/25/2020  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say from the photo but it looks like it was partially struck out of collar.
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 Posted 01/25/2020  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewAussieCollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone did mention to me that it could be a collar engagement error?
I am ised to seeing a lot of error coins that are PMD. But this one has me bamboozled, as well as other people who have seen images.

I will try and get pics when I am home. I have a fair few on my phone. If any other photos are needed. I could try and get photos of what people would like to see, to make it easier

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 Posted 01/25/2020  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hard to say from the photo but it looks like it was partially struck out of collar.


That would explain why the diameter is slightly larger
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 Posted 01/27/2020  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah but I can't quite figure out how the details on the coin are fine, part of the rim is okay and the diameter is bigger - if half the collar was missing but I don't think that could happen.
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 Posted 01/27/2020  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks to me exactly the same kind of damage that occurs on coins that have been inserted into a tourist/good luck piece. I've seen it a lot on American cents; never on a coin as large as an Australian 20.
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 Posted 01/28/2020  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewAussieCollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@SAP
Hmm, I have never seen one of those either. I might have to have a look at other coins similar.
I am very knew to the world of coin collecting. About 12-16 months I have started collecting and noodling.
But this particular coin has had some good discussions. On what it actually could be. I have been told things like, could be a bigger foreign planchet, that has created the die for the tails side and the rim & collar has just been miss machined.
Coin has been lodged/syuck in a part of the minting process, and then has somehow been displaced and caused the error.
Collar misangement error?
Or, to just send it of to PCGS and see if they can come back with anything, although it would cost $120 to do that.
But a few people, cant work out. How at the minting process could a coin like this get through the checks.
Or someone has really done a good coin in a back shed, making it a rather spectacular PMD coin.

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