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Jersey 1/12 Shilling Another Favourite Of Mine. Grading Thought?

 
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I really like this coin, seems to be in really great shape. I am a little confused with the face of the upper lion on the reverse. I will post the pic next.
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The face of the upper lion seems worn. But strange to me. And the mid point of the hair in the first pic.
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Cleaned?
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Mid-AU, does not looked cleaned to me.



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Thank you. MS is a hard wall to crack.

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I have no idea how these coins are graded, but I do know if ICCS applies the same criteria to this coin as they do to Victorian Canadian coins, it's got to grade mid to high MS.

The obverse fields look very much pristine.
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From the pictures there is an obvious score line on the cheek of Victoria. An obvious comment, but it has to be made.

Exceptional coin, anyway. Probably the best I have seen, even though it is a picture.
Nice eye appeal, the satin patina combines nicely with the underlying luster. To keep it this way, this coin should be in a close fitting capsule.

MS-64, but I am not keen on grading non U.S. coins with Sheldon numbers.

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I have a copper (not bronze, as this one is),
1/13 of a Shilling, but only in gVF condition (British grading),
as well as a bronze 1/12 Shilling, also in gVF,

The 1/13 of a Shilling converted directly to the value of the French 2 Sous, but the people of Jersey preferred the copper coinage be convertible to the Pound (as the Jersey Pound already was), and so the 1/13 of a Shilling became obsolete. They were already using British silver coinage.
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Is the face of the upper lion a poor strike.
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I saw a 1/13 shilling on line and assumed it was a typo.lol thanks. Another tidbit added to my archive of knowledge.
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UNC with a weak strike.

Brilliant coin - close to FDC in the British world. (About MS65 in American)
Loving Halfcrowns. British and Commonwealth coins 1750 - 1950 and anything Kiwi.
If it's round, shiny and silvery I will love it.
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I'm not seeing any wear on this one. Some strike weakness in the lions on reverse and luster looks a bit dull. MS-64
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@Joma:-
The weak strike on the face of the uppermost lion is the most common for this type.
It is due to the fact that the opposite side of the coin corresponds with the highermost point of Victoria'a effigy on the opposite side of the coin. It is almost impossible for the reverse die to fully strike up the lion's face where the planchet, after striking, becomes slightly dished at that point.

All coins where all of the lions' faces are fully struck up, are quite scarce.
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