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Another 1909 S/S/S Philippine Peso (Au+ Details?)!

 
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 Posted 02/10/2020  6:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wesley1969 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello all,
Back around April 2019, I posted a picture of a Philippines Peso I had recently purchased that turned out to be a scarce S/S/S variety. I recently won an auction of a 1909 peso that looked like another triple horn, high grade details. It just arrived today, and I was correct. VERY high grade details with some shallow pitting in certain areas of the field, but a gorgeous matte finish and almost no pitting on devices. Looks like whoever salvaged the coin was smart enough to avoid the wire brush, but was willing to sacrifice mint luster to save the coun from further corrosion by over dipping (?). Feel free to examine the photos and offer your opinions. If I am right, then my $21.01 cost was well worth it. Would this be NGC worthy, even as a deyails coin, or would you recommend ANACS. I have an ANA membership, so both are an option. Let me know what you think, and thanks for reading.








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 Posted 02/10/2020  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like MD and DDD.
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 Posted 02/10/2020  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesley1969 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John1,

Appreciate the response, and while the "ghosting" at the bottom of the mm supports your assertion, just for the sake of argument let's examine the following photos. Pic 1 is of an example of DDD taken from Google. Notice how the "doubling" is lower than the rest of the device. Pic two is of the "S" mm on my Peso. Pic 3 is a screenshot of a certified S/S/S Peso from PCGS CoinFacts. Notice how both the doubled serifs at the bottom of both MMs as well as the "triple horns" at the top are not only level, they are in exactly the same location on the MMs. Again, while the "ghosting" is likely caused by ejection/deteriorated die, it seems a stretch to explain the matchup of the identifying features of the triple S, but after 38 years of collecting, I am well aware of the tendency to engage in wishful thinking, so if I'm incorrect, so be it.


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 Posted 02/10/2020  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin has both a RPM and Die Deterioration Doubling.

Your original photos show the Die Deterioration Doubling a bit more prominently than the RPM.

Very nice find!
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 Posted 02/10/2020  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesley1969 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TanMan2001,
Thanks!I only looked at about 500 coins over the past year to find this one, LOL. Would've been nice if it had been S/S. Then I would've had a "full house".
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 Posted 02/10/2020  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see it as a S over S RPM and not the S/S/S as you have it in your title. As far as grading goes, I feel it's always the owners call, but if mine?...no
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 Posted 02/10/2020  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesley1969 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GreasyFingers,
Thanks... looking at it again, you may be right, in which case I have the full variety set.
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