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 Posted 02/18/2020  3:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This coin below sold last night on an eBay auction. Can you guess this grade by PCGS? I personally want to know opinions on weak strike and wear and how do you distinguish the difference.

I will reveal the grade shortly.




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 Posted 02/18/2020  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU to MS 62. Luster is EVERYTHING in this series. Impossible to grade accurately from images provided. Must be seen in hand. Anything else would be a true guess open to nasty surprises. Weakly struck (typical) examples when MS will still have cart wheel luster. Disturbed luster is AU even if only so called shelf wear.
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 Posted 02/18/2020  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bigmarty58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU58 would be my guess.
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 Posted 02/18/2020  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say AU-58 as well.
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 Posted 02/18/2020  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that's a nice example from this series....I'll go as high as MS64
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 Posted 02/18/2020  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Check gidjit's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
im at au 50
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 Posted 02/18/2020  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ms-62, better opinion, if it was in my hand..
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 Posted 02/18/2020  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hope this photo helps. Its PCGS trueview. I took away the certificate # just for the guessing. Notoriously difficult to grade.

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 Posted 02/18/2020  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Nickelsguy.

I could easily grade this, with the coin in hand...
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Was this a slider or are the experts saying this is a solid MS63 weakly struck?

Personally in the hands of ICCS this would not pass AU50.
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 Posted 02/19/2020  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too many dings for 63. I have seen au in ICCS 65 holders......20 years ago maybe even 15, Brian at ICCS had a grip on this series. Since then....no better than anyone else. 50-50
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 Posted 02/19/2020  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not familiar but how were these coins distributed from the mint in the 20's to banks and people?
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 Posted 02/20/2020  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Typical grade for PCGS, ICCS would have graded it AU58
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 Posted 02/20/2020  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Typical grade for PCGS, ICCS would have graded it AU58


Go back and reread Nickelsguy post... you are making assumptions without the coin in hand.

If there is no interruption of lustre, then ICCS would also give it a MS-62 or MS-63 grade. I have lots of examples of mint state weakly struck 5c coins, in ICCS holders.
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 Posted 02/20/2020  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey guys,

My idea about this coin is this...it sold for about 2300 canadian. Way below a true MS63 graded coin I think. I also believe the bidders could see through PCSG trueview the actual photos in real high definition. The crown area where the beads are missing appears like there is wear...shoulder area also looks about the same with wear.

I am also not sure when this coin was graded based on the certification numbers but grade inflation could have played a factor given the low mintage and key date attributes.. I would also assume, crossing over to ICCS this will not pass AU58 either.
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