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1782 1 Real Genuine Or Counterfeit?

 
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 Posted 02/28/2020  01:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fr3nzy1113 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Just got this 1782 Spanish 1 Real coin. Is it genuine? I don't have much knowledge about spanish colonial coins and I can't seem to find a definitive answer. I was looking at numista and it seems to be this coin but the weight seems a little low at 2.9 grams vs the listed 3.38g. Could wear cause that much change in weight? Also the diameter is the same as a modern nickel but the listed diameter is 20mm. Thanks!




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 Posted 02/28/2020  07:14 am  Show Profile   Check yellow88's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add yellow88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am in no way an expert, or even that bright, but looks legit to me.
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 Posted 02/28/2020  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I agree it looks legit, and I think you mean Mexico, not Spanish.

I am not sure about the wear question. In principle, if the coin had been in circulation for 100 years, it could lose 14% of its mass https://www.persee.fr/doc/numi_0484...m_6_170_3217

But it seems to me that kind of loss would have left fewer details than on this coin.
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 Posted 02/28/2020  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin is legit. Variations in weight and diameter from the mint were not uncommon. Add wear to that equation, and it's in range IMO. I have a few of these in this condition. Nice coin.
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 Posted 02/28/2020  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fr3nzy1113 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is there supposed to be some sort of design on the edge like the bigger real coins? The width had me worried cuz it looks thin plus the difference in the diameter and weight. Are counterfeits common with these? Thanks.
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 Posted 02/28/2020  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Check ryurazu's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i would say that its uncommon for counterfeiter unless in high grade or rare dates, if they are try to fake bullion usually try the 8R version.
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