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 Posted 03/08/2020  4:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add expat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this coin which is significantly damaged. On one side is SKILLING and NORGE and on the other only E.M
Obviously Norwegian or Danish but from what era or its denomination?


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 Posted 03/08/2020  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@expat, having the diameter and weight of this coin would help, but it looks like you have some denomination of SKilling from late 17th Century Norway. Here is a numista link to the 24 SKilling (which is not an exact match, but hopefully gets you closer):

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces82372.html
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 Posted 03/08/2020  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add expat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I tried numista and could only find one with SKILLING DANSK on it.
It measures 22mm and in its current state weighs 4g
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 Posted 03/08/2020  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Check yellow88's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add yellow88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Skilling issued during reign of King Christian VI (1730-1746)? This is the best I could come up with:

Skilling - Christian VI king of Denmark, Norway, Vandals and Goths
Country: Norway
King: Christian VI
Reign/Years: 1730-1746
Obverse: crowned lion holding an axe facing left
Value: Skilling
Currency: Mark (1523-1746)
Composition: Silver (.562) * I'm sure this isn't exact but a guestimate


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 Posted 03/09/2020  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add expat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tried 3D imaging and enhancing the colour inbetween letters. Nothing, I think it is too worn. The other problem is, the period I think it is from 1720-1780 there seem to be no examples to compare it to. Numista have no photos for much of this period
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 Posted 03/09/2020  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am wondering if it is some kind of token, forgery or garage job (I am leaning toward the last).

I can't match that size and design to any known denomination. As @spence points out, the design elements most closely match that 24 skilling coin, but I don;t see a smaller denomination with the same design in the 18th century (the large crown does not appear to have been used before the 18th c.), and if I did, would have expected to see a number before the word SKILLING (4, 8, 12...).

The 8 skilling KM-224 1727-1735 (3.67 g) has the lion and crown but not this legend.

The 12 skilling KM-217 1717-24 (3.9 g) matches the weight pretty well, but does not have the lion design either side.

And I don't see anything with adjacent letters E M.
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 Posted 03/09/2020  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too am suspicious about this coin. There are a number of things that do not match. The lion design was used on Norwegian coins until the 18th century and at that time the country's name on coins was written as NOR (for latin NORVIE, on occasion the complete latin name was spelled out). The Norwegian name of the country, NORGE, which I think I can read at 7-9 o'clock on the lion side, was not used on coins until the 19th century.

Also, the letters are sans serif, a style of lettering that came around 1900 and on Norwegian coins I don't think it was used until after WWII.

Perhaps this is a beaten up 20th century token of some kind? Maybe the "E M" has something to do with the issuer, although I have no idea what it might stand for.
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Thanks to you all for your efforts.My wife´s family live in Bergen, Norway, and they have taken the image around to dealers and none of them can place it.
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 Posted 03/09/2020  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am wondering if it is some kind of token, forgery or garage job (I am leaning toward the last).
I'm guessing button, personally.
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