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2020 P Shield Cent Off-center, Broadstrike Or Out Of Collar?

 
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 Posted 03/24/2020  12:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jrsvarieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this 2020 P penny while searching new box of pennies and wanted to know for sure what type of error I have.
The reverse is slightly larger than obverse. The affected area is along the rim from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock, with the zinc core exposed in the center of this area. When obverse is face up, there is Mechanical Doubling on west side of coin obverse and reverse.
If you need better pics or pics of different area let me know and I will post them.

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 Posted 03/24/2020  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like a damaged coin. If so, it is worth face value. Just like the question you ask before you decide to go on a blind date: "Got a picture?
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 03/24/2020  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds cool. Need pictures.
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I'm still learning how to post things here, sorry!
The coin is damaged by mint, this coin came out of new uncirculated box of pennies. Anyway I have pics posted now
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Maybe edge shots would be better. But if the zinc is exposed, It sounds like PSD. It maybe have been damaged by a counting machine? Even a partial collar would not remove the plating.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 03/24/2020  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly struck With a partial collar? If it could fit inside of a Cent roll, then it can't be a broadstrike. That would cause the coin to grow larger.

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I found 5 of these coins in the box .Before unwrapping coins the coin in question could be seen bulging through the paper. There was also 8 coins in box that had been struck thru debris.
What it looks like to me is coin was struck then partially ejected and struck again, only on rim. Look at reverse full image, you can see where metal is folded up. Also on rim it is clean cut from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock, where it looks like its been pinched, not scratched.
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 Posted 03/24/2020  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Partial Collar error.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 03/24/2020  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an off center strike,nice. 2x2 worthy.https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...H_Complete=1
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 Posted 03/24/2020  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is almost certainly a partial collar error, notice the "railroad rim" like edge of the coin, that is the hallmark of a partial collar error. This is a rather large one, most of the ones that escape the mint these days are relatively minor. For common Lincoln cent dates, these have been going for $5 to $10 on ebay over the past few months. As I see no 2020 examples sold or listed for sale, this one would likely go for more than that if you were to put up for auction now. If more examples hit the market, expect the price to fall back down to the $5 to $10 range eventually.
Good find! Definitely worth keeping!
Oldest Found-------
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Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foreign: 1863 (from machine)
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