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1799 Draped Bust Dollar For Grading And Critique Of Photos

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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have started to go through my holdings and want
to document the coins with photos. As I no longer
have a scanner I Jerry-rigged a little photo taking
device using my cell phone. Here is the result:





Compare the two above with the two below which I posted
in the CCF group back in 2013: (The color is quite different. The scans are closer to actual color.)





Oh, and here is the little machine...the phone rests
in the cradle and the coin is cradle placed
on the blue area:



Thank you for your opinions.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No Grade QA
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not familiar with the term "QA"
Please explain.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
QA is Questionable Authenticity.
"Shine, shine, a Roosevelt dime
All the way to Baltimore and running out of time" - Tom Waits 'Clap Hands'

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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look at the reverse. There is a die crack through
the "STAT" of "STATES."
The coin is a B-5 BB-157 variety.

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04/03/2020 9:23 pm
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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Check edweather's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine. BB-157 with the die crack through STATES on the reverse. Maybe a later die state, with the crack through T in STATES.

edit: hahaha I didn't see your post
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04/03/2020 9:32 pm
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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They say it's genuine so VF-35
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...bb-157/40049

The die crack extends from the last "S" in "STATES"
all the way to the tail feathers!
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 Posted 04/03/2020  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say VF-30. Very creative use of Legos! I think the cell phone photos are definitely better, but you may need to change your lighting source or tweak the color balance of your photos to get the color more accurate.
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 Posted 04/04/2020  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Zurie. I thought that the phone pics showed more detail too. It was a dreary day - no bright sunlight. Artificial light was only option. "Tweak the color balance?""" Hmm. I'll see what I can do.
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 Posted 04/04/2020  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is much closer to the actual color.
REALLY shows every little pimple.
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 Posted 04/04/2020  05:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverLee33 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
She's a beauty! I'm not qualified to give my opinion for a grade~ but I can give my opinion on your homemade, lego version of a tripod and I think it's very ingenious and clever~
A+ for originality!
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 Posted 04/04/2020  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Photo pair 1 is terrible.
The coins is made of silver, not copper.

The lighting on the second pair corrects for the color problem.
When I compare them to the third image I can see that intensity was a bit weak.
Also the coin was lit from the south.
The recommended direction is the northwest.

Since the third image is "much closer to the actual color" I like it.
But it was lit from the northeast.
Orient it so that the lighting direction is from the northwest and I think you'll have nailed it.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 04/04/2020  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The last photo is much better. I have a question because this coin is only one I see in LCS from time to time 1500 -2500 ...how many known varieties for the 1799 are there?
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 Posted 04/04/2020  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DocBurnz

This site has a wealth of info on DB dollars if you're interested!

http://www.earlydollars.org/index.asp
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 04/04/2020  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like you reduced the color saturation so much that it's now a black and white photo. I don't know what your coin really looks like, but you could adjust the color with photo editing software to get a more realistic picture. In any case, it's a great looking coin!

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