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1808 50 Stuivers Netherlands - Possibly Fake Or Not?

 
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 Posted 04/07/2020  12:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add monarch to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

I buy this coin few months ago from dealer from Netherlands for 300 Euro. I was thinking it was Ok.
I haved more time now and I looked it closely.

Weight: 26,2 grams
Diameter : 36,50 mm

It is normal measures.

But look at the head and letters KON. Almost no space between. On coinarhives there is a space between letter K and hair. Most similiar I found is this:

https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...538cbc15315a

Look at bootom of neck, it is different.

Then I tryed ping test:

https://streamable.com/mxq1q9

Not good.

Here are photos. Please let me what do you think?
Should I return this coin?

Thanks.








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United States
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 Posted 04/08/2020  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
monarch

This coin was not made like a modern coin, so an exact match is not required. Each die pair looked slightly different.

When I authenticate a coin of this age I always ask myself if it was made correctly for the historic period.

Here I can see no major issues with how the dies were made and with the way the coin was produced. The planchet the coin was struck on was irregular with a small clip and since the edge was applied by a milling machine there is no interruption in the diagonal design. I also note a large scratch across the face of the coin which looks like an adjustment mark as I would expect to see.

Based on those facts I would vote to accept the coin as GENUINE. I would of course defer to the expertise of someone who has more than a passing familiarity with the type.
My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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