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Kopeck 1735 Russia, Fake?

 
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 Posted 04/17/2020  10:49 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Schubkraft to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Anyone have a picture of a real coin?

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 Posted 04/17/2020  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see a 1735 listed in NGC.

Maybe @january1may will chime in.
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 Posted 04/17/2020  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to be a pattern for an experiment where old 5-kopek coins from the 1720s were to be directly restruck into kopeks.

This page has terrible photos of both sides; this page has a good photo of one side. I couldn't find any better pic that wasn't of a copy.
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 Posted 04/17/2020  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is definitely a fake
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 Posted 04/18/2020  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is definitely a fake
Well, duh. I don't think anyone was disputing that.

Russian patterns are extensively copied, with most sellers explicitly saying that what they sell are copies (that sort of thing is very legal in Russia, to the extent where a typical Moscow newspaper stand will probably have some pattern copies among its wares); I'm guessing that this is one of those copies (it seems to be far better quality than the usual copy, too, though it still has many significant differences from the real thing).
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 Posted 04/18/2020  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Schubkraft to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help!
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 Posted 04/23/2020  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Check giedrius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add giedrius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some pictures of genuine coin:
https://www.russian-money.ru/coins/...a-1735--5990
and counterfeit, named "copy" http://bestmani.ru/shop/anna-ioanno...-monety.html
and one more counterfeit https://krsk.au.ru/11521090/
Catalogue of Lithuanian half-groats 1495-1529 http://goccf.com/t/282866
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