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wowould be interested in finding out more about these type of coins. maybe beg borrow or steal. and on the off chance purchase.need to know more thanks coggie
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I haven't had a lot of luck finding old Scottish coins in the U.S. I have only one - a penny of Alexander III - and I ordered that one from England many years ago. Separate issues were made for Scotland until the final union with England under Queen Anne. Perhaps dealers who specialize in British coins will have them, and they may be more common in the UK; you should be able to order them from there. Maybe someone in the UK can recommend a dealer. I haven't looked into these coins for some time, so I don't know off-hand where to find them easily.

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I have a 1994 #8356;1 U Coin from Scotland mint issue on card.

my problem is it is smething I won from Catman in an Auction and I am trying to decide what to do with this coin.

I can keep it in memory with the other items I have from Steve or I can set it up as some kind of memorial or I can dispose of it.

decisions, decisions, decisions, right now I an keeping it dry and safe and loved.
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quote:
Originally posted by rggoodie
I have a 1994 £1 U Coin from Scotland mint issue on card.



Richard,

*Technically*, it isn't from Scotland, but rather has a Scottish theme. The UK began issuing the £1 coins in 1983, with the first year having the Royal Arms of the United Kingdom on the reverse. Following this issue, they set a standard of running a 4-year themed series, with each year representing the 4 components of the United Kingdom (Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland), with a national issue (either Royal Arms, or Royal Shield) in between series. The first theme was the "Floral" series, which featured a distinct plant for each component, wrapped by the Royal Crown (Scottish thistle, Welsh leek, N.I. flax, English oak). This theme was used twice (1984-87 & 1989-92). The next theme was the "Heraldry" series, which featured a distinct heraldic symbol for each component (Scottish lion rampant, Welsh dragon, N.I. Celtic cross, English 3-lion standard). Again, this theme was used twice (1994-97, 1999-2002). The current series, begun in 2004, has a theme of "Bridges", with the 2004 issue showing the Forth of Firth Bridge in Scotland, the 2005 issue showing the Menai Straits Bridge in Wales, the 2006 issue showing the Egyptian Arch Bridge in N.I., and the 2007 issue will show the Gateshead Millenium Bridge in England.
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quote:
Originally posted by kuhli

quote:
Originally posted by rggoodie
I have a 1994 £1 U Coin from Scotland mint issue on card.



Richard,

*Technically*, it isn't from Scotland, but rather has a Scottish theme. The UK began issuing the £1 coins in 1983, with the first year having the Royal Arms of the United Kingdom on the reverse. Following this issue, they set a standard of running a 4-year themed series, with each year representing the 4 components of the United Kingdom (Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland), with a national issue (either Royal Arms, or Royal Shield) in between series. The first theme was the "Floral" series, which featured a distinct plant for each component, wrapped by the Royal Crown (Scottish thistle, Welsh leek, N.I. flax, English oak). This theme was used twice (1984-87 & 1989-92). The next theme was the "Heraldry" series, which featured a distinct heraldic symbol for each component (Scottish lion rampant, Welsh dragon, N.I. Celtic cross, English 3-lion standard). Again, this theme was used twice (1994-97, 1999-2002). The current series, begun in 2004, has a theme of "Bridges", with the 2004 issue showing the Forth of Firth Bridge in Scotland, the 2005 issue showing the Menai Straits Bridge in Wales, the 2006 issue showing the Egyptian Arch Bridge in N.I., and the 2007 issue will show the Gateshead Millenium Bridge in England.


Great Information
Thank you

this coin is the Lion Rampart
One Pound
22.50 mm in diameter
Nickel-brass
9.5 grammes

What threw me is (I know very little about UK coinage except what was done to and for Australian coins) and secondly the card it is mounted in Show the Coin was done at The Royal Mint Llantristant Mid Glamoran.

Even more important the the coin was received from Catman (our recently departed Steve Kaden)

More sentimental value to the coin than cash value.
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kuhli, the coins you described sound great. Any link or sth that shows them?
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quote:
Originally posted by RenaL

kuhli, the coins you described sound great. Any link or sth that shows them?



Lawrence Chard's site, with excellent pictures of the coins themselves.
http://www.24carat.co.uk/poundcoinsindx.html

My site, which is focused on the RM packaging, and so the coins are not that clear.
http://coins.sdsimon.com/UK_s2.htm
***notes:
  • that not all years are listed. They only made the folders for "new designs".
  • the 1995 folders were made in both English language, and Welsh language.
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Wow.

I wish I didn't ask for pictures. How am I supposed to sleep now:lol
I think my collection will never be complete without that Scottish Lion or Welsh Dragon.
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The only modern UK coin I have is the 1990 pound, same colour and slightly larger than a two dollar Australian, has a weed in the middle of a crown with gibberish on the side.


EDIT: ok its not gibberish, its Welsh and its a leek going through the crown. link here.
http://www.24carat.co.uk/pleidolwyfimgwlad.html
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Scotland issued its own coinage up until the Acto of Union in 1707. Post union, Great Britain has issued a few coins with a scottish theme: the "Scottish shillings" 1937-1967, the decimal 5 pence and the 5-yearly-cycle scottish pound coins.

I have two Scottish coins: a copper 2 pence and a silver 20 pence, both undated from the reign of Charles I. The copper is in pretty grisly condition and doesn't scan well, but I just had a go at scanning the silver:
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I've had trouble locating any pre-James I (James VI of Scotland) Scottish here in this country. I'm seen a couple of mediaeval pennies of Alexander at the local coin show, but they were way out of my price range.
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my,my,my, becarefull of what you ask for you just might get it . what wonderful coins . one more addition for my must have list . the thistle and lion are must haves. now to pioritise thanks everyone coggie
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Scottish coins generally are more expensive than their more prevalent English counterparts. However this is a good place to look;

http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/903683.jpg



Here's the Scottish hammered;

http://www.onlinecoins.co.uk/coinsearch.php
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OH GEEEZE gotta have the robert the bruce hammered, and another job! thanks for the great info
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