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1672 Farthing, Heavy Flan.

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I think I'll give my recent additions their own separate entries as numismatic importance/interest is often lost in the United Kingdom Coin Acquisitions topic.

1672 heavy/thick flan. Weighing in at 7.2g and visibly thicker than all my others. CW Peck gives a maximum weight of 6.4g for these and most weigh considerably less than that.
Rare, and a higher grade than those in the Colin Cooke and Joe Lee collections.

1672-Farthing,-Heavy-Flan.
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 Posted 05/06/2020  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea why no one has acknowledged this thread, this has to be the most interesting coin I have seen on here all week, that farthing is in remarkable condition, but then to add the heavy flan on top, this coin is really something special.
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 Posted 05/06/2020  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks N-N, I thought someone would see how important this is and you clearly did. Your five pound gift voucher is in the post. LOL
I do sometimes worry important posts in 'recent additions' are lost because there will be an, arguably unnecessary, JBuck 'Nice find!', 'Great addition!', 'Interesting!' comment added shortly after each post which will then sometimes mean the topics are lost in the ever expanding list.
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I think I'll give my recent additions their own separate entries as numismatic importance/interest is often lost in the United Kingdom Coin Acquisitions topic.
This was an excellent idea.

If something needs more attention or discussion it is always better to put it in its own topic. The "Post your..." and other "group" topics are only for showing off the eye candy and should never to be relied upon for extensive commentary. My pithy comments in those topics are only to assure posters that someone appreciates the goods.
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 Posted 05/06/2020  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I get it, but I think it could be argued the frequency is all a bit relentless.
It might be a good idea to think about reining it in a little.
It's simply not necessary to add an exclamation and thumbs up every time someone posts something.
Important information ends up being bumped down the list and is then in danger of being lost.
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That's a stunning farthing! Thanks for posting!
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 Posted 05/06/2020  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Important information ends up being bumped down the list and is then in danger of being lost.
Some of these group topics have coins and comments being lost just by the frequency of images being posted.

And what it there are two coins in there that need more comment? We then risk having overlapping conversation.

The HFBCWG? topics are a prime example, moving two or three pages a day.

Even if I posted nothing at all in those topics the comments would become irrelevant rather quickly.

(By the way, this is why (most of) these topics were moved to the "Post Your..." Gallery Topics forum, where most people can just ignore them.)


Anything that merits discussion beyond the "24 hour news cycle" needs to be in its own topic. Full stop.
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 Posted 05/06/2020  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Experiment.
Try posting no 'thumbs up' comments at all for a month. See if it helps the flow and sharing of knowledge.
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 Posted 05/07/2020  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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. I do sometimes worry important posts in 'recent additions' are lost because there will be an, arguably unnecessary, JBuck 'Nice find!', 'Great addition!', 'Interesting!' comment added shortly after each post which will then sometimes mean the topics are lost in the ever expanding list.


Yeah I get what you mean, but I think he's just trying to be encouraging and friendly to members, and I can't hate on that.

That said, I do find it unfortunate that coins like this can be completely ignored on here, whereas minor double dies get at the very least a 4 or 5 replies.

But I suppose it all comes down to what the most amount of people are interested in. Not to mention I'm sure if this was a .UK site, it would be the opposite.

And hey, look at it like this, the less people interested in a certain area of coins, the easier it'll likely be to cherry pick.
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More investigation needed.
I would email with pictures to the British Museum on this one.
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The issue of the "thumbs up" messages clogging up the threads would be resolved if this forum had a "Like" system, similar to that available on most other forums. Is this not possible here?
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 Posted 05/07/2020  04:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I agree, I think my suggestion was a little hasty. It wouldn't be the same here without JBuck's positive contributions and we'd soon come to miss them.

These heavy flan 1672 farthings are known but very uncommon. Blanks were imported ready made from Sweden, so I imagine at least one consignment included some which hadn't been rolled out down to the required thickness.

Here are links to the heavy flan coins in the Cooke and Lee collections.
http://www.colincooke.com/collectio...urrency.html
http://www.farthingshalfpennyerrors.../charles-ii/
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That's a great idea Paddy!
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Special piedforts are much more common with French coins.
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The issue of the "thumbs up" messages clogging up the threads would be resolved if this forum had a "Like" system, similar to that available on most other forums. Is this not possible here?
It may be technically possible and it has been suggested at least once or twice, but our staff discussions always conclude the forums would lose more value than would be added. Full disclosure, I have been generally against it, but having a perpetually open mind means I will listen to new arguments.


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I agree, I think my suggestion was a little hasty. It wouldn't be the same here without JBuck's positive contributions and we'd soon come to miss them.


Hasty or not, I believe all suggestions and ideas worth discussing. We do not know until we put it out there.



We can now return to giving this coin the proper discussion it deserves.
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 Posted 05/07/2020  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Good to have you back.
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