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1986 P LMC Overcoat Crease Issue

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 Posted 05/20/2020  12:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all,

I went back and forth on whether to post this, but after comparing to some of my other 1986p cents I'm not seeing this definition on one of the coat creases. A picture is worth a 1000 words so here it is, up for comments. I can post other pics if needed but I can find nothing else remarkable about the coin. Thanks!


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 Posted 05/20/2020  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert, but maybe a die crack?
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 Posted 05/20/2020  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks CoinHunter17 - I thought the same thing but it's awfully defined. Here is another 1986P for comparison.. maybe some grease on the die?


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 Posted 05/20/2020  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a die crack. An odd "hit" ?
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 Posted 05/20/2020  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On way to tell is with a piece of aluminum foil. Take the foil with the shiny side up, place it over the area in question. Press hard with you finger on the foil. Then look at it under a scope. Determine which side it raises on. If it raises on the shiny side, then it is a die crack. If it raises on the dull side of the foil, then it is coin damage. You will have to look at it under a scope to see which side it rises on. Give that a try?
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 Posted 05/20/2020  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Coop that is a neat trick. I don't know the proper word, but if a mite were walking across the coin that area would be a little mountain range it would have to climb over. Incuse?

It's raised on the shiny side of the foil in other words, a die crack.

Thanks so much. I think I'll hang on to this one as I haven't been so successful with nice finds yet.
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 Posted 05/20/2020  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Always an educational piece. Got an image of the foil? I like to have an image of that?
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 Posted 05/20/2020  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm trying Coop - the foil impressions look great to my eye but my scope turns them into shiny mess - let me try to get an edge picture or on a slant with a magnifier. Man my scope stinks it up.
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 Posted 05/20/2020  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it was a passing thought. But it sure helps when determining raised or incuse. As a kid my brother and I used to make a copy of a coin with the foil and then fill it with Elmer's glue. Made out own play money at home. But it only works for one side of the coin.
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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 05/20/2020  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe this will help. Photo from an angle, 1 arrow pointing to the ridge that is edge of collar and another pointing to the ridge in question. I'm trying another method to photograph as well.


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 Posted 05/20/2020  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After looking at this coin WAY too much I think it's a greaser - pushing a normally recessed area too far north, creating the ridge. I'll keep it in a flip in case another one is ever found. Thanks guys for all input! We should be ashamed of the coins we put out 1982 forward.
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 Posted 05/20/2020  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking again at this one, it looks like a contact mark pushed the metal into the affected area. Note the incuse mark below the pushed metal area.
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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 05/20/2020  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Coop if you want the coin to examine you can have it - I never did a contest after my 50 posts. Send me info and it's yours to spend or grade. Looks like a die crack to me. You have helped my education so much. Take this cent!
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 Posted 05/20/2020  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, but shipping it would cost more. I can see pretty much all I need to see. Glad the procedure worked out. I made a new suggestion on an image to show how this can be done from my post:

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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 05/20/2020  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But mine is raised. How sad is it that you can't find a coin to give away after 50 posts?
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 Posted 05/20/2020  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well the area is raised, but there was a movement that pushed the metal in a different direction than normal. Try this process on the ATB Quarters to see how these devices are incuse?
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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