1986-P LMC Overcoat Crease Issue

Coop you are the authority no doubt. All I have is a penny with a ridge, not a valley. I'm not sure how anyone could even see it as a valley. I think the coin took a slam to produce a ridge. But it looks to be a little too convenient to make a ridge like that. I'm not experienced enough to make that judgement. At the end of the day, a die crack results in no premium so why do we bother?

Thanks again Coop for a lesson

Just because it's raised it doesn't mean it's PMD.

Slight slivers of metal can be pushed upwards when it's hit by something, making that piece of metal raise up slightly like you have here.

It just got hit in a way where the metal was pushed up a little bit.

Haha alright, well, if that's what you want to do go for it.

Here's some nice sites to help you with Doubled Dies and other things:

http://www.varietyvista.com/
http://doubleddie.com/1801.html
https://www.coppercoins.com/advsearch.php

Basic errors:

http://cuds-on-coins.com/

No problem! Oh alright, glad you know of them then. Thanks, means a lot! I try to help people out the best I can, even though my knowledge is very limited.

Anytime!

Thanks Coop! The portion of that coin is normally recessed per design. I'll keep it as a novelty.

Edit to add - I too think the coin took a smash, in an area that makes it look odd. I'll save it, costs me 1 cent.

Well I have many threads on different subjects. When I type in CoopHome: Note it turns blue. If you click on the that link, you can study various subjects with hundreds if not thousands of images with a great information to learn on. It took me 15 years to learn what I can teach others now in weeks. Why was my learning so slow. I was taught with yes or no answers. This gives you the answer, but know why they said yes or no, is more important. Thus my comments are usually to help everyone see what I see on the images and give them more information along the way. So check out the link. There are three pages of links to go through. Even the subject of Machine Doubling comes up a lot. Also doubled dies for different series of coins. What to look for, instead of trying to identify from things looking different. So hand there, many have benefited from the site. You will to. Welcome to the addiction.

DE, it comes with experience. But one bit of random advice is to think more in terms of what the devices should look like. Yes they can be smaller if the die has been overpolished, or larger if the die is old, but they will still just be what they should look like. When searching for doubled dies, it's not that one is looking for a second full bit on the devices (although amazing coins like the 1955 DDO have this and MD creates this but is totally different), in general you just look for the shape being larger in some way than it should be.

Sounds simple, but it's not. It's all about experience and we all found hundreds of MD, DDD, and similar non doubled dies before figuring out how to sort it all out. There are endless stories of folks who, after gaining experience, went back through coins they had already looked at and found great doubled dies.

My advice is always to look for what is outside of the normal design, not inside the normal. Can just be that wheat stems are too thick, or the FG initials on the reverse are too thick. Minor stuff, but still doubled dies.

As to the original coin here, to me, your coin appears to be a normal minor hit with the associated ridge. I'd toss it in a second. That said, maybe sometimes I toss important errors, but experience tells me that that fairly often I am right about a coin being an error or not even when I don't know exactly what is going on. So for questionable coins I post the coin here and usually get a determination. That's what you've done, and this has been a great thread. My opinion may be wrong, but overall most coins posted here get figured out with multiple eyes on them, and my thoughts are this is a random ding and the coin is just a cent.