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1986 P LMC Overcoat Crease Issue

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 Posted 05/20/2020  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm just going to give it away to anyone interested, honoring 50 posts. It's a worthless coin, but I haven't found any good ones yet. First one to answer this question gets it, AND my offset die US cent.

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 Posted 05/20/2020  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop you are the authority no doubt. All I have is a penny with a ridge, not a valley. I'm not sure how anyone could even see it as a valley. I think the coin took a slam to produce a ridge. But it looks to be a little too convenient to make a ridge like that. I'm not experienced enough to make that judgement. At the end of the day, a die crack results in no premium so why do we bother?
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 Posted 05/21/2020  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again Coop for a lesson
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 Posted 05/21/2020  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again Coop for a lesson
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 Posted 05/21/2020  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow I am not questioning Coop here but my error was RAISED, not PMD. It's the only reason I posted it to begin with. God knows I wouldn't recognize DDO if it it bit me on the face. I have tried and I just can't see it, or I have never found one.
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 Posted 05/21/2020  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just because it's raised it doesn't mean it's PMD.

Slight slivers of metal can be pushed upwards when it's hit by something, making that piece of metal raise up slightly like you have here.

It just got hit in a way where the metal was pushed up a little bit.
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 Posted 05/21/2020  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gonna keep my damaged/retarded/misaligned coin in my collection. I wasn't looking for an Ebay fortune. Thanks to all for your input! It's one of 2 or 3 coins I have saved for my collection.

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 Posted 05/21/2020  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haha alright, well, if that's what you want to do go for it.

Here's some nice sites to help you with Doubled Dies and other things:

http://www.varietyvista.com/
http://doubleddie.com/1801.html
https://www.coppercoins.com/advsearch.php

Basic errors:

http://cuds-on-coins.com/
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 Posted 05/21/2020  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Silvercents, I'm well aware of those sites. I'll make note of your tendency to be a though. Thanks bud!
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 Posted 05/21/2020  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem! Oh alright, glad you know of them then. Thanks, means a lot! I try to help people out the best I can, even though my knowledge is very limited.

Anytime!
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 Posted 05/22/2020  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even a meteor leaves a raised area.

Note the outside edge of the affected area. This hit creates a wave of earth movement. On a coin a glancing blow leave a raised area an also incuse area. On your coin just south of the raised area, I can see the incuse mark where coin took a hit, and moved the metal to the north. If it is not a die issue, but a coin damage issue.
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 Posted 05/22/2020  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Coop! The portion of that coin is normally recessed per design. I'll keep it as a novelty.

Edit to add - I too think the coin took a smash, in an area that makes it look odd. I'll save it, costs me 1 cent.
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 Posted 05/22/2020  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm never going to make it in this hobby. Most of the Double Die pics I can't see what they are talking about. I'm a king in the world of discovering Machine Doubling - Thanks Coop.
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 Posted 05/22/2020  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I have many threads on different subjects. When I type in CoopHome: Note it turns blue. If you click on the that link, you can study various subjects with hundreds if not thousands of images with a great information to learn on. It took me 15 years to learn what I can teach others now in weeks. Why was my learning so slow. I was taught with yes or no answers. This gives you the answer, but know why they said yes or no, is more important. Thus my comments are usually to help everyone see what I see on the images and give them more information along the way. So check out the link. There are three pages of links to go through. Even the subject of Machine Doubling comes up a lot. Also doubled dies for different series of coins. What to look for, instead of trying to identify from things looking different. So hand there, many have benefited from the site. You will to. Welcome to the addiction.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 05/22/2020  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again Coop. It's just so easy to feel (seriously, no offense) retarded when you look at the DDO/DDR pages and can't see what they are talking about. Maybe that comes with experience or maybe I'm a dumb-a55. I'll stick with it a while. People like you make it seem worthwhile.
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