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1818 1/2 Crown - Counterfeit But Contemporary Or Modern

 
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 Posted 05/22/2020  6:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Picked this up recently as part of a coin lot.

Pretty sure it's a counterfeit as it's not silver and weighs only 12.04 grams. (Diameter is 32 mm). The question I'm hoping someone can answer is whether it's a modern repro or contemporary.

The color suggests copper, which I wouldn't think would be the metal of choice for a modern fake, and the blackish patination around the edges on both faces could be the remains of the original coloring agent (mercury based metal perhaps?).

Any thoughts or ideas at all would be most welcome.

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 Posted 05/22/2020  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a contemporary counterfeit to me. You see quite a few of them in dealers' trays over here in the UK. I imagine there must have been an upsurge in counterfeiting just after 1816: members of the public would have been unfamiliar with the new coins, and the sudden deluge of new coins in circulation after a long coin shortage might have encouraged the counterfeiters.
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 Posted 05/23/2020  03:36 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say definitely contemporary forgery. As far as I know, no one is faking the forgeries yet! (Not worth enough to make it worthwhile.)
This website should help you identify which version you have:
http://www.steppeulvene.com/index.halfcrown.html

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 Posted 05/23/2020  04:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, as Paddy and Rob say, contemporary, and quite common. Fakes of the 1816-1820 issue shillings and sixpences are also often seen.
Here is an 1819 half crown I have, from which most of the sliver coating has worn away.


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05/23/2020 04:50 am
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 Posted 05/23/2020  04:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

And here is my contemporary counterfeit 1817 half crown, from which all original silvering has disappeared.



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 Posted 05/23/2020  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You see so many copper-alloy (as opposed to the white metal type) 1816-1820 George III contemporary counterfeit shillings/half crowns with zero or barely any trace of silvering - long past the point where they would've (should've?) fooled anyone... Along those lines, I've seen it suggested that at least some were intended as gaming tokens - similar to the

Any thoughts? If you think of the 1820s-dated imitations of sovereigns and double sovereigns - which clearly couldn't have fooled anyone into thinking they were gold - this might make some sense.

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