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1985 P And 1990 P Dimes Same Issue. Is This An Error?

 
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 Posted 06/30/2020  6:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hail24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I know we are suppose to post one coin at a time but these 2 coins have the same issue and didn't require close up pictures so I figured it was ok. Are these dimes Broad Struck, MAD, or nothing at all? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris



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 Posted 06/30/2020  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a slight MAD. Also,the 85 is very common and you can see lots of info on it in the search box upper left of page.
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 Posted 06/30/2020  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hail24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks John long time no see. I ran the contest and you didn't even join in to try and win it. LOL
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 Posted 06/30/2020  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PLEASE, regardless of similarities, ONE coin per thread. Thank you.
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 Posted 06/30/2020  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@hail, I agree with @john1's assessment, but have you confirmed that these dimes are the correct diameter?
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 Posted 06/30/2020  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hail24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not confirmed that they are the correct diameter Spence but I will check that for sure. They look like they are but I will check anyway. Thanks
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 Posted 07/01/2020  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I ran the contest and you didn't even join in to try and win it. LOL

Must have been too difficult for this old collector
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 Posted 07/01/2020  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both coins are not the same error. The 1990 appears to be a dual misalignment of both dies. This is a nice error we don't see many examples of. Congratulations.

http://www.error-ref.com/dual-misal...f-both-dies/
" Most of the time the two misalignments will point in different directions."
The obverse rim appears slightly thicker(wider) by the MM (K4) and the reverse is thicker by the ST (K10:30). These do not line up on the same part of the rim from each other (which would be a different error).

The severity of the off setting misalignment on your coin seems to fall between the first two examples illustrated at the link.

Does the 1990 have full reeds around the rim? If so this seems to indicate that it was a normal "struck in collar" and not an off center strike as mentioned in the link.

The 1985 seems to have an obverse misalignment with a die issue (Die deterioration, polishing, or dent) around the L (LIBERTY).
Edited by Petespockets55
07/02/2020 06:28 am
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 Posted 07/01/2020  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is info on the 1985 that I was talking about being common.http://goccf.com/t/286580
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 Posted 07/01/2020  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hail24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Both coins are not the same error. The 1990 appears to be a dual misalignment of both dies. This is a nice error we don't see many examples of. Congratulations.

http://www.error-ref.com/dual-misal...f-both-dies/
" Most of the time the two misalignments will point in different directions."
The obverse rim appears slightly thicker by the MM (K4) and the reverse is thicker by the ST (K10:30). These do not line up on the same part of the rim from each other (which would be a different error).

The severity of the off setting misalignment on your coin seems to fall between the first two examples illustrated at the link.

Does the 1990 have full reeds around the rim? If so this seems to indicate that it was a normal "struck in collar" and not an off center strike as mentioned in the link.


Thank you for all the information as I had no idea they were even different. I am really glad you showed me this as I love to learn about coins and now I have learned something new today. the 1990 Dime does not have full reeds as one side doesn't have any and then the rest of the dime does. Here is a picture and thanks again for the information.



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07/01/2020 2:18 pm
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 Posted 07/01/2020  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hail24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Must have been too difficult for this old collector


Sorry John next time I will make sure to make it easier buddy you always seem to help me out now it is my turn

Also thanks for the link on the 1985. I now see that those are normal and I am sure I will run into others out of the $800 worth of dimes I still have to go through
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 Posted 07/01/2020  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome. I'm not sure about the missing reeds though.

Out of curiosity, what part of the obverse design is near the missing reeds?
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 Posted 07/02/2020  05:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Titted collar error?
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 Posted 07/02/2020  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hail24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 11:30 to 2:30 edge when facing the front is missing the reeds and when you flip it over it is the 3:30 to 6:30 part missing the Reeds.
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