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1909 VDB Wheat Cent With Toning For Grading

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 Posted 07/01/2020  8:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey guys I was wondering what you guys think this would grade out. Looks like a 64/65 to me with natural and eye appealing toning. Thanks






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 Posted 07/01/2020  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS64BN or Unc Details Artificially Toned
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 Posted 07/01/2020  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The vibrant color spectrum has me virtually convinced it is AT . MS-64 Details .
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 Posted 07/01/2020  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I"m not going to comment on the color. 63, that one spot to the right of the bust, even if toning is distracting.
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 Posted 07/01/2020  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Questionable color for sure. Hard to tell from pics, but I'm seeing light rub on a few high points.

AU58, maybe MS63 in hand.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fingerprints on obverse downgrade it to "Details" for me (don't hold your collector coins in your fingers... buy a pair of cotton gloves are your local coin shop).


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 Posted 07/02/2020  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In these pics, looks AT'd I agree. How about some shots with different lighting?
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 Posted 07/02/2020  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-64 details, altered surfaces.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Holding a coin by the rim is acceptable, and my fingers never touched the obverse.

As for the pics, I should've specified that I took these to show off the toning but I think you guys are getting the wrong idea as these were all angled pics in LED lighting. I'll take some pics head on to show a drastically different coin.
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Here are more pics in normal lighting. In hand the toning is light until it's angled towards light, and it looks natural to me in hand. Can't say I know of an artificial way to make the toning look like this (however I understand the reverse can feel sketchy to some.) As well, I have seen cents with similar toning to this straight grade, so the pink/yellow doesn't concern me too much, but as always I appreciate the input.





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 Posted 07/02/2020  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-63 RB, straight grade.

The second photo shows what could be the start of a pinpoint corrosion spot in the center of the cheek (the pinpoint in the yellow circle). Keeping the surface stable might become an issue over time. Whatever you do with this coin, check that spot from time to time.
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 Posted 07/03/2020  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-65, RB. Beautiful coin and I believe original surfaces.
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 Posted 07/03/2020  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I've said it once......
This is why grading from pics is so difficult. Second round of pics look natural. I have several with almost the identical toning. Angle and lighting can really over accentuate the color. TPG may still call it questionable.
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 Posted 07/03/2020  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first round of pics besides the first one was taken under LED lighting which in hindsight wasn't the best choice. The second round of pics was with normal sunlight, which is how I normally take pics, so I should've stuck with that.

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