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1870 Indian Head Penny

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 Posted 07/02/2020  06:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canary01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all

I was wondering what you think of the grade of this coin?

Thanks in advance!



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 Posted 07/02/2020  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF-35 to EF-40 Dark .
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 Posted 07/02/2020  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Close to EF-40, cheek scratch detracts.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF40 close enough to 45 that it may push over as the reverse is stronger than a 45
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 Posted 07/02/2020  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even with the weak diamond area, I think this one is EF-45. The reverse even looks AU.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 07/05/2020  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF-40 to me.
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 Posted 07/05/2020  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF-40. Attractive in my opinion.

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 Posted 07/05/2020  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are really tough on this one. Here's a PCGS EF-45.
The sharpness of the head band and reverse tells me EF-45 might be too conservative. This looks AU with some strike weakness at the tips of the feathers and diamond and hair curl area.



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 Posted 07/05/2020  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And an NGC XF-45.



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 Posted 07/09/2020  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I personally can't get it to AU territory. I think PCGS got this one correct.
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 Posted 07/09/2020  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is yet another coin that fits the bourse floor "AU Slider" category, what eventually will become EF-48. It's on the bubble between EF-45 and AU-50. The reverse is stronger, and the obverse scratch is unfortunate. I think it nets to EF-45 until EF-48 is recognized.

Unless there is a reason to slab it now, it might be worth holding for a few years until one of the TPGs debuts the EF-48 grade.
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 Posted 07/10/2020  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 07/11/2020  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm at AU-50 details environmental damage obverse AU 53 reverse. Seems PCGS and NGC are less rigid on diamonds due to die wear ANACS are the diamond counters. Good looking coin I'ma fan of the 1870 71 72 76 and 78. Have no problems with a coin like this one, nice.
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 Posted 07/11/2020  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the 1878 NGC AU53 cracked out,that short while back many called at VF35 notice missing diamonds. The 76 is an ANACS F12 straight (funky color and all) the 77 was a raw $397 crapshot I threw 11 on. My thoughts are the TPG's place an oompff on eye appeal. Goldeagle that NGC XF45 is hot,goes AU in my book. The PCGS example is missing some lift for AU. Fantastic how calling Indians gets subjective fast, I enjoy the debate seeing fellow Indian lovers idiosyncratic talents.
Am I the only one seeing oldtime butternut coffee can storage residue on obverse of the op's coin? I digress something's on the obverse of the coin, maybe not enough for a details but think its a toss up.
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 Posted 07/11/2020  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Here's a PCGS EF-45.

Just sayin > I'm surprised original owner didn't send this coin to NGC for conservation of all that crap in and around the devices .
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