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Medieval AR Denar/Penny To Identify - With Archer?

 
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 Posted 07/15/2020  09:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ManOnTheRoad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Dear all,
I would be grateful for any tips as to the ID of this coin. Could the rev. be an archer holding an arrow in one hand and a bow in the other? Or a cross in left hand and bow in right hand?
Thanks for any hints.

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 Posted 07/15/2020  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unusual coin ... Agree it is not at all clear what this figure is holding.

Hopefully someone will recognize it (I can't). Could be a sword (right hand) and a shield (left). Or a staff (right) maybe making it a bishop's coinage?

Other side seems to have gothic letters R O A O h ?
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 Posted 07/16/2020  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ManOnTheRoad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you tdziemia,
yes - it could be a shield as well. I've searched through countless denars/silver pennies online and there are quite a number of Eastern European coins round about 10-12th century with figures that hold a sword and shield, albeit none that match even remotely in terms of both obv. and rev.
Quite a puzzle! :)
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 Posted 07/16/2020  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I only have three catalogs covering medievals of specific places. I do not see a match for medieval Poland, although there is one 12th c. denar type with standing monarch facing, holding sword & shield (Gum.93... reverse is not a match). Likewise, Lorraine has deniers in the early 14th c. with the duke facing, holding sword and shield, but the reverse lettering is always a variant of the mint name, N A N C E I.

(By the way, I guessed that letter at 10:00 on yours as an R, but more likely a K. K A could be part of KAROLUS, but that third letter looks like a lower case h to me)
Other members have catalogs covering Bohemia, Hungary, etc...
Good luck!
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 Posted 07/16/2020  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@motr, as it turns out I picked up a brother to your coin a couple months ago. This is a Denar from the German County of Brechna and dates to between 1325 and 1355 AD. Interestingly, that reverse inscription is something like OTOROTONh.

Mine is attributed as Dannenberg AS 84 and Thormann 206, which should be a good starting point for you. Here is a link to another similar coin:

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...026&lot=5646



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Helpful coincidence!

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 Posted 07/17/2020  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ManOnTheRoad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for the expert help in attribution! Wow, that's impressive. And I'm glad my guess wasn't too far off. I had checked Bohemian denars and even did an online search of Brandenburg / Saxonia ones. But without your help wouldn't have ever placed it I think!
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