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Think I Have Been Hit With A New Style Fake 1

 
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 Posted 07/27/2020  1:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add no1ontrend to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
As the title of this says.
Think I have been hit with a fake 1 coin in my change.
What do you think of this whopper


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 Posted 07/27/2020  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it magnetic? Is its weight different from a known genuine coin?
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 Posted 07/27/2020  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add no1ontrend to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for reply, I dont have a magnet to check if its magnetic,
But I weighed it and it weighs 8.64g.
And another known genuine pound coin weighing in at 8.80g. Beside the known genuine coin it looks laughable
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 Posted 07/27/2020  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add no1ontrend to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is it, side by side a known genuine coin

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 Posted 07/27/2020  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks absolutely faked to me.
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 Posted 07/27/2020  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks as though it's been in a dryer...
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 Posted 07/27/2020  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could a dryer do that much damage? Why on earth would anyone bother making such a crude counterfeit?



to the CCF!
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 Posted 07/28/2020  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum.

On your coin there appears to be traces of the micro lettering, in particular on the obverse edge by the date. Can we have a close-up of that part?

If the micro lettering is present, it would be strange that such a fine detail be reproduced given the crudeness of all the rest. My guess at the moment is that this is a genuine coin which has had a hard life. The close-up will help decide.
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 Posted 07/28/2020  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice! The odd 'seams' around the rim look a bit dodgy to me, but I too would be interested to see the edge. I have a few fakes of the old style 1 but haven't seen one of these copied before!
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 Posted 08/07/2020  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenscot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are definitely forgeries of the new one pound coin in circulation. This is one I received in change.

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 Posted 08/07/2020  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moralclimate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@tokenscot, the pills (middles) of the 12-sided 1 are plated brass, the brass identical to that of the rings. So with enough wear, parts of the pill would turn the colour of the ring but not vice versa. This suggests yours is genuine (too). If it were a cast fake, being the simplest kind of fake, we would expect a white metal i.e. lead, tin or an alloy thereof to show through everywhere.

@no1ontrend, for my tuppence worth I think since "ONE POUND" can be read in the obverse microlettering, there is no evidence of anything other than post mint damage.

We know of 1-2 'makes' of struck fake 12-sided 1, excluding Chinese-made fake trial pieces. They/most appear to emanate from Sheffield area. http://www.thefakepoundcoindatabase...ewPound.html This includes a link to Check Your Change's analysis of one which found it to be part-plated, mainly a weird silver-coloured Cu-Zn-Ni alloy. It appears the same/main maker has also made two relatively rare fake 2 models.
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