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An Interesting Find - A Diadumenian Fouree Denarius

 
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 Posted 09/20/2020  12:58 pm Show Profile   Check Paul Bulgerin's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently purchased a nice group of ancient coins on eBay specifically to get this one coin.

It is an AE fouree denarius of Diadumenian, the son of Emperor Macrinus (217-218 AD). All of his denarii are rare coins and I found a VCoins listing for another fouree where the seller says that fourees of Diadumenian are rare.

Here's that listing:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ro...Default.aspx

The style looks pretty good. The coin weighs 2.50 grams, which is about half a gram under a typical specimen, so I am going with it being a nicely toned AE fouree and not a silver denarius with a thick patina.

I thought I'd share it with the group. It is based on a PRINC IVVENTVTIS reverse with depiction of Diadumenian holding a scepter and standard, with two standards to his right (RIC, Vol. IV, Part 1, #102).




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Perhaps both yours and the VCoins example are Limes denarii rather than fouree cores? I see no evidence of silver plating on either. For comparison, searching on "Diadumenian" and "limes" at ACsearch.info:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.ht...eur&company=
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Yes, it certainly could be a limes denarius.
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 Posted 09/21/2020  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Check FVRIVS RVFVS's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would classify it as 'limes' especially as it has a great olive green patina without any of the corrosion or surface blemishes associated with fouree
Since all the Imperial bronzes of Macrinus and Diadumenian are rare it is a good find
After 45 years I am still looking for a Diadumenian
I better get moving !
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Here is the lot it came from. There were a number of very nice coins in the group.

I agree, it is a limes and not a fouree. I'm continuing to research the coin.


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Debasement during the Severan period seems to have made the silver plating of counterfeits less necessary. High-tin bronze probably looked "white enough" when new and the process was simpler than that used to produce fourrées.
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There were a number of very nice coins in the group.
Probably very expensive though!

The lower right coin is a 17th century Swedish Livonia issue, which looks a bit weird next to all the Romans. I wonder what's the origin of the group.
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