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1996-P Dime Clad Error?

 
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 Posted 10/19/2020  10:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lucky323 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this in change from the store. Thought environmental damage to start with but It has a copper shine to it. Any suggestions?




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 Posted 10/20/2020  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephm99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm actually leaning toward this one being an actual missing clad layer. I'll wait for the experts to chime in, but I don't think I see the clad layer anywhere, even on the low wear areas (between the letters).
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 Posted 10/20/2020  04:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight?
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 Posted 10/20/2020  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@lucky, yes pls post the weight. I'm going to be pessimistic and be in the environmental exposure/surface staining camp, but the weight will help us know for sure.
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 Posted 10/20/2020  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find clad when metal detecting that have turned this color but the weight is needed to be sure.
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 Posted 10/20/2020  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel it is a metal detector find. The color should be deeper red and show some weakness on the strike:

If you carry it in your pocket you will see the coating wear off the highest devices first. Probably you could take a damp cloth and rub on the outer rim just before the edge, and you will probably see the color come back on that area of the coin. If it were a real missing clad, do you think it would have been out in circulation and not picked up when the first person opened the roll? It was turned loose 24 years ago?
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 Posted 10/20/2020  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky323 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It weighs 2.3 but it's thicker than a regular dime. Also rubbed it with water and a cloth and nothing happened.



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 Posted 10/20/2020  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@lucky, since the weight is correct, I am certain that the color is due to surface staining rather than a missing clad error.
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 Posted 10/20/2020  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky323 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about the thickness difference?
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There is some variation in planchet thickness permissible by mint specs. A missing clad coin would be thinner than typical (which explains why the high details may be missing as noted by @coop).
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 Posted 10/21/2020  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The edge is not always a guide to thickness. Even a finned coin will show the edge look taller:

The stock thickness will be the same (most of the time) but the upsetting of the planchet and the strike controls the reed edge thickness/thinness. Take a sample of a few coins in a clear plastic tube. Some areas on the edges are thicker and thinner, even on the same coin.
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 Posted 10/22/2020  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also rubbed it with water and a cloth and nothing happened.

Please don't clean your coins or hold them between your fingers. Both actions kill any numismatic value your coins might have. Just fyi.
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 Posted 10/22/2020  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dime appears to retain some mint luster. As a result, I suspect this dime was struck on an improperly annealed planchet.
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 Posted 10/22/2020  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Normal weight is 2.27. Missing one clad layer would make it weight? Missing both clade layers would make it weight?Improperly annealed planchet should make it weight normal,right?
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 Posted 10/22/2020  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky323 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the information.i am going to hang on to it and put it with the rest of my odd coins.
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