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Crusader Imitation Denier?

 
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 Posted 10/20/2020  02:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello experts!

In my collection I have a coin which intrigues me as I am not able to locate it. It looks like a venice imitation or bulgarian imitation. But the lyrics around seem to be latin like? I hope it is a crusader imitation to be honest and was wondering if anyone happens to recognize this gros? It can also be a combination between a trebizond asper and one of these haha.

THe lyrics say: WT IX IA? I (C turned upside down) S With 2 people standing holding the same steak that zeus holds.

Back: starts with RV ? RUDOLF? 2 stars between person.





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 Posted 10/21/2020  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@vince, you only bring things here that are very difficult.

I do not have reference materials for southeast Europe, or Byzantine coinage. SO probably I will not be of much help.

But here is what I see on the legends reverse:
2:00 - 4:00 W T ? R I A
9:00 - 11:00 A I C(upside down) S(on side)

What is size/mass?

Good luck!
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10/21/2020 07:29 am
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 Posted 10/21/2020  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Tdziemia,
I am good in putting very difficult coins here online haha. This one has it weight of 1,55 grams and almost 19mm in diameter.

Some coins are quite hard to determine and these intrigue me the most to be honest.
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 Posted 10/23/2020  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks a little like this coin: BULGARIA, Second Empire. Ivan Aleksandar. 1331-1371. AR Groš (19mm, 0.63 g, 6h). Veliko Turnovo mint
But this coin from Ivan Aleksander is rather a imitation from my type. As mine looks more official and european like a mint in Italy.
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 Posted 10/23/2020  04:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found it YEAH!!
Andronikos II. Palaiologos, 1282-1328, mit Michael IX. Silber-Basilikon 1295/1320, Konstantinopel.
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 Posted 10/23/2020  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats!
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