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1918/7 D Buffalo Nickel On Ebay- Is It Authentic?

 
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 Posted 11/21/2020  01:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this while looking on eBay tonight and it may be sold by the time some of you are looking at this but I am still curious about it. Is this just a very weakly struck coin or counterfeit like I suspect it may be. Buffalos are known for weak strikes but this coin just looks off. Any opinions? Thank you!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1918-7-d-O...46890.l49292

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 Posted 11/21/2020  01:45 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost certainly not genuine IMO
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 Posted 11/21/2020  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well somebody got it for over $200 .
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 Posted 11/21/2020  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a possibility of this one being real (would need better pics to determine), but I'd stay away from this seller. A majority of his buffalos have been acid treated. Mushy details, most being present, and a grainy surface, will almost certainly be under weight. Why anyone pays that much for a acid treated/damaged coin is beyond me. But to each their own!

Edit: changing that to Low possibility. This seller seems to come across a good number of 18/7 buffs
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 Posted 11/21/2020  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be worth much more in a holder. H-m-m.
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 Posted 11/21/2020  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks a bit washed out.
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 Posted 11/21/2020  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mushy appearance raised a big red flag for me and that's why I thought the community might be able to confirm my suspicion. Maybe it is authentic, but thats not something I would take a gamble on. Thanks everyone!

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 Posted 11/21/2020  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A genuine EF slabbed example is what, north of $7K?
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 Posted 11/21/2020  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No doubt worth a pretty penny if genuine. I'll bet this one went for $200+ because others had the same suspicion I did. So either someone got a genuine 1918/7-D for a crazy good price or someone way overpaid for a counterfeit example.

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 Posted 11/21/2020  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller also sells some slabbed coins. If he felt this one was genuine, why would he sell it raw at a steep discount?
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I smell a rat !
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 Posted 11/21/2020  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To quote the seller


Quote:
"* * * hiStORiC # 1 U.S.A. CLASSIC! !! ... CHECK OUT DETAIL PHOTOS & READ DESCRIPTION! !! ... Using a Natural Acid Solution I Chemically Prepare icing a 1Oo% Organic White Vinegar Filtration Reduction, I have Cleaned & Completely Restored This(these) Coin(s) from a State of Unknown Datelessnessless Identity in Death & Sorrow back 2 its(their) Original Recognizable Condition(s)! !! ... Bringing th' beloved 5c biSON back from th' dead is an art... My Far Less Abrasive & Environmentally Friendly method generally takes several months 2 finish & I am careful through each step of th' process not 2 scratch them after watching closely 2 prevent any corrosion build up swirling th' dishes in my art studio numerous times daily... Results Range from dYNAMiC 2 Acceptable, allowing Collectors more affordably built complete sets&investor key dates shopping w/us... We don't use 'stock photos'... Winning bidder gets th' EXACT item(s) featured in above description & photographs..."
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
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 Posted 11/21/2020  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dieuwer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also note the random capitalization of letters. And this seller has an amazing 99.6% feedback score!

Someone paid $91 for this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-S-T2-...047675.l2557

I guess this particular sales tactic is working...
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 Posted 11/21/2020  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Check Onedollarbillnut's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Onedollarbillnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are individuals out there that will buy dateless buffaloes and acid treat them hoping to find a 1916 DDO or a 1913-S type 2 or a 1918/7-D and sell them at a hefty profit. These coins are nothing but damaged coins, but hole fillers for those on a tight budget.

They will never straight grade but be a details coin due to damage.

They used to do just the date area but it looked like it was damaged so the started doing the whole coin so it looks better.
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 Posted 11/21/2020  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Acid restoration can only go so far.

The seller's photos lack sufficient detail to draw any solid conclusions. I can offer a few questions, though:
If the date was missing, why are the details of the second feather's rachis and calamus so sharp?
How would acid treatment separate the "F" of FIVE and "S" of CENTS from the rim?
Wouldn't acid treatment discolor the sharp scratch running from the "I" in LIBERTY behind the eye, across the cheek, across the neck, and directly through the "8" in the date? How would that scratch be restored through a missing date?
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If I found a 16 DDO or a 18/7-D acid dating I would be happy just to own an example for my cherry-picker collection. They are super tough to find without acid dating. It would at least be a hole filler until I can afford a better example.

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