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Who Receives Credit For Engraving?

 
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 Posted 11/25/2020  3:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bond632 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
With the introduction and use of the reduction lathe, does anyone receive credit for engraving? Would it be the original designer, the galvano artist, the lathe operator, or nobody?
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 Posted 11/25/2020  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The design on the coin is essentially artwork, and so the original artist is usually the individual who is recognized.
British coins often display the initials in tiny letters of the designer somewhere on the coin.

'VDB' is an example for American coins.
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 Posted 11/25/2020  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bond632 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your answer sel 69l. Would that be assuming the 2D paper artist is also the 3D galvano artist? What if there are 2 separate artists for each process? Would they both be credited with engraving, or just the galvano maker, considering that's what's used to engrave the hub?
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 Posted 11/26/2020  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is the original designer of the artwork that takes the credit, and is allowed to put their initials on the coin.

After that, the same individual may, and usually does, contribute to the eventual manufacture of the coining dies, but the subsequent processes after the artwork are much more technical engineering skills by mint employees, and not artwork.

It all goes back to the idea that with ancient coins, the original die designer is necessarily the coin die engraver.

With the advance of technology, specialization happens and so there is a division on art talent and technical skill, but both still need to work very closely together, when it comes to the manufacture of dies for modern minting machinery.
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 Posted 11/26/2020  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bond632 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again for enlightening me to the process sel 69l. I am trying to learn as much as I can about dies and die making, for I think that we can all agree, without them, there would be a serious lack of coinage indeed.
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 Posted 11/27/2020  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The US Mint no longer used Galvanos or the reduction lathe. Many of out coins, especially the commemoratives have two sets of initials, The original designer and the person who rendered the original design in the computer that controls the cutting machine that cuts the master hub.

Back when they were using the Galvano and the reducing lathe, the designer also sculpted/engraved the original large sized model that the galvano was made from and he would tough up the galvano if needed. Then the "technician" would run the reducing lathe. that was strictly a mechanical operation so he would not get credit as an "engraver". So it would be the original designer/engraver whose initials would appear on the coin. This is also why the designers of the State Quarters did not get their initials on the coins. They only provided designs, it was the mint engravers that created the models and it is their initals that appear, not the designers.
Gary Schmidt
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 Posted 11/27/2020  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bond632 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the great information Conder101! Now with computers doing the "engraving", I imagine nobody will receive credit for it, or was that how the State Quarters were made?
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 Posted 11/30/2020  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The computers do the "engraving" but the mint artists still create and tweak the image in the computer that the master hub is made from, so their initials are still on the coins.
Gary Schmidt
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